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#1142538 - 01/12/17 12:51 PM 2017 trout fishing
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First trip of 2017 , me and a friend fished the Smokehole section of Wva . Caught around 35 trout with the big fish a 27" rainbow weighing 7 1/2 lbs.


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#1142955 - 01/13/17 11:24 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice start...!
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#1145123 - 01/18/17 01:37 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Awesome. That big one makes the other keepers look like bait fish.

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#1152072 - 02/01/17 07:07 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Fished a couple lakes and a stream in Augusta Co today. Got on a couple good fish. The 4 in the pic range from 4lb 5 oz to 5 lb 5oz.


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#1152594 - 02/02/17 09:18 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice fish Tommy
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#1160167 - 02/18/17 08:00 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Fished Wva again on Friday. 4 of us did pretty well. Biggest was 27" rainbow 7.37 lbs.


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#1160582 - 02/18/17 11:13 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice...!
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#1162207 - 02/22/17 12:10 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Beautiful trout!

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#1165464 - 03/01/17 08:20 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice trout. Put em' back and let them grow smile
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#1165717 - 03/01/17 05:53 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: manganos]
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Originally Posted By: manganos
Nice trout. Put em' back and let them grow smile
I release a lot of trout as well but I like to eat fish.

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#1169227 - 03/08/17 05:52 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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It was a good day, also landed 4 yesterday, not up to the troutnut size, but they will taste good... smile


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#1169251 - 03/08/17 07:00 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Good deal , glad i'm not the only one catching them.

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#1171162 - 03/12/17 09:20 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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My oldest son caught a real nice one today. Troutnut worthy smile
18" long


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#1171543 - 03/13/17 06:39 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice one ! Guess I'll have to see what this weather does see when I get to fish again.

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#1172962 - 03/16/17 10:15 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Me and my oldest went again, it was cold and snow covered, but we landed another big one, almost troutnut worthy...we each got our 6, all in all a great evening.


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#1173056 - 03/17/17 08:06 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice !Trout for dinner.

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#1174099 - 03/19/17 01:01 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Wow!! Nice work

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#1175621 - 03/22/17 06:35 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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If I keep this up, I will have to change my username to TROUTMASTER...! The one on the left is a brookie.....yummy

Only landed 4 yesterday...


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#1175691 - 03/22/17 09:02 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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This isn't fair , you're doing more fishing than me lately. Nice trout

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#1175711 - 03/22/17 09:23 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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laugh I hear ya, every day off, I have been going.... and doing pretty good, but sure enough they will stock the lake and mess everything up..... smile cause everybody will line the banks and mess up my honey hole. That brook will be so tasty...!
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#1176109 - 03/23/17 09:20 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice trout Puddle Jumper. I'm going to get out tomorrow for the first time this year. Going over to the Tye I think.

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#1176231 - 03/24/17 08:35 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice, good luck, post a picture if you slay em....!
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#1180612 - 04/02/17 05:42 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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My son got a good trout today. We saw it yesterday on Heritage Day but it wouldn't bite so we went back today. I don't really know what it weighs but it's 26" long and around 8.5 lbs on the bathroom scale.


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#1181299 - 04/04/17 11:24 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice rainbow, congratulations!

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#1181487 - 04/04/17 07:10 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice job, I bet he had fun with that one...!
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#1181783 - 04/05/17 03:03 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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what are you guys using for tackle?

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#1181842 - 04/05/17 06:27 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Can't speak for the others but I like a 7'-8' ultralight spinning rod and Shimano Sahara 500-1000 series reel . 2-4lb line

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#1181868 - 04/05/17 07:38 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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I use the 6' Shakespeare Reverb Spinning Combo from Wal-Mart with Trilene "easy casting" 4lb line. Fish about 2-3ft off the bottom with a egg slip sinker, #18 treble hook with Salmon Peach or Garlic power bait. This set up is for lake fishing, might not work so well in a stream.

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#1181877 - 04/05/17 07:52 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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My son was using a 5'6" Eagle claw UL rod with a Zebco Omega ZO2 reel,6 lb green Trilene and a big ole glob of Salmon Peach powerbait.

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#1182341 - 04/06/17 10:14 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Got a text letting me know the hatchery truck was spotted leaving one of my favorite hangouts. I slid out of work a little early, swung by the house got our gear and was in line wating for my son to get out of school. He hoped in the car and off we went. He caught this one on his second cast with a minnow. I saw the fish dart out from under a rock and hit it.


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#1182504 - 04/07/17 10:38 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Beautiful brook trout.

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#1186216 - 04/16/17 02:25 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Pics from Thursday, spent the day fishing the Smokeholes caught a bunch of trout. Then went and dug ramps.


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#1186217 - 04/16/17 02:27 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Pics of 3 citation Brooks from hidden valley Bath co . Caught on friday


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#1186218 - 04/16/17 02:37 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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One more pic , 25" 6 1/2 lb rainbow from early last week.


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#1186221 - 04/16/17 04:25 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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That was a good day...!
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#1191123 - 04/27/17 05:17 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Took my dad and oldest son and went to Elkhorn today, and absolutely slayed em, we each got our 6 in just under 2 hours, a good time by all....! smile
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#1191598 - 04/28/17 07:41 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Good deal, can't beat that.

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#1191675 - 04/29/17 12:02 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Troutnut took me fishing once for trout, I think he called the place the GARHOLE ?

Anyone every heard of this place ?

We couldn't check a cold, much less a Trout smile

I will be glad when we can start floating the river again for smallmouth as Tommy will take you to some good spot's.

I think he keeps the TROUTHOLE for myself. wink
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#1194544 - 05/05/17 10:14 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nah Country I wouldn't do that. Just a bad day , everyone has a few of those.

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#1194545 - 05/05/17 10:17 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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24" 6 lb rainbow from Dry fork Randolph Co Wva


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#1194628 - 05/06/17 07:14 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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I did not know they grew em that big.... smile
Nice fish...!
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#1194905 - 05/06/17 08:40 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice Fish Trout.

Let me know when it's time to float the river for smallies.

I'm ready to get the kayak wet smile
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#1195090 - 05/07/17 09:48 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Soon as the weather gets decent Country , river is about a ft and a half high now

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#1199048 - 05/16/17 02:07 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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A few pics from this year










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#1199051 - 05/16/17 02:08 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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And a couple more that didn't fit in the first post



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#1199178 - 05/16/17 06:54 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice fish , great to see kids out getting involved.

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#1199546 - 05/17/17 07:11 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Wow , all of you got some amazing catches for sure , great job , and a ton of fun as well. Sure glad i don't have to be near Tommy after he had a mess of ramps .

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#1200031 - 05/18/17 08:55 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Great Deal, Glad to see the kids with fishing poles in there hands instead of cell phones. lol

Nice Fish.

Hope to be fishing with Troutnut soon as the river levels get down.
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#1203843 - 05/27/17 08:16 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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I had a pretty good day on the Roanoke River last weekend.

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#1204210 - 05/28/17 05:00 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Those are some nice brook trout in the bottom pic. Good eating size rainbows too.


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#1204475 - 05/29/17 11:02 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Originally Posted By: troutnut
Those are some nice brook trout in the bottom pic. Good eating size rainbows too.


Thanks, I use to fish a lot like you. I got away from it for years and than my son started showing an interest in it. Crazy thing is, it was youtube videos that perked his interest. He's come quite a ways over the last two years.

A couple of those rainbows were a little on the small side,but it's hard to tell a 10 yeard old to throw his fish back, plus he tends to let them swallow the hook!


Edited by bd1023 (05/29/17 11:06 AM)

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#1204501 - 05/29/17 11:55 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: SquibLoadMatch]
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Originally Posted By: bd1023
Originally Posted By: troutnut
Those are some nice brook trout in the bottom pic. Good eating size rainbows too.


Thanks, I use to fish a lot like you. I got away from it for years and than my son started showing an interest in it. Crazy thing is, it was youtube videos that perked his interest. He's come quite a ways over the last two years.

A couple of those rainbows were a little on the small side,but it's hard to tell a 10 yeard old to throw his fish back, plus he tends to let them swallow the hook!
They're put there to keep n eat . I know they sometimes run small,but as long as it keeps your son interested that's all that matters.

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#1204827 - 05/30/17 09:03 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Great fish. Glad to see your boy is interested in fishing.

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#1207576 - 06/05/17 03:05 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Anyone else still fishing? Here are a few pictures from Friday.











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#1207691 - 06/05/17 07:36 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Nice Brookie...! Not lately, but hoping to.
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#1235427 - 08/07/17 08:11 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Looks like y'all tore them up. We're lucky to have quality trout waters in and close to VA. What were you catching them on in WVA if you don't mind me asking?

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#1235428 - 08/07/17 08:18 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: coryd]
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Late reply but didn't do much fishing this July but am actually trying to think of good place for trip for the 19-23 this month. Towards the end of June went to the Maury and did well and was surprised when a buddy of mine pulled out two small rainbows. They must have floated down from goshen where they stock in the colder months. Wasn't expecting that in the summer.

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#1236284 - 08/09/17 07:07 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Most of the ones from Wva are on small jigs . Berkeley trout worms, gulp minnows, trout magnets and a new one on the market. Freaky Frank's worms. Killed em on those this year.

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#1236285 - 08/09/17 07:08 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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It's always a few trout in Maury river , the state stocks tb e Goshen section . Trout unlimited does a few streams with fingerling trout also.

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#1249385 - 09/08/17 12:57 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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For heavens sake.....Is it trout season yet.......? Come on cool weather.....lol
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#1252773 - 09/16/17 02:18 AM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Getting closer .... but so is bow season , muzzleloader and rifle

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#1415147 - 10/25/18 09:52 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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First outing this fall, it was a great day other than only caught 2...!
19 inches long almost 3 lbs


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#1433978 - 12/15/18 06:33 PM Re: 2017 trout fishing [Re: troutnut]
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Hammer time again


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