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#1362311 - 06/09/18 12:08 AM Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ?
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Ok , In recent years I’ve seen more and more people hating on 40 (I’m sure a lot of this is the bandwagon disease) just like everyone is jumping on the 10mm bandwagon after the round has been almost non existent , damn near extinct , for 25 years . There’s nothing bad or wrong with 40 s&w and I can tell you why : for one , it’s an all around good round , not too powerful , not too small , not too big , does not over penetrate , decent ammo capacity and ok price (compared to 10mm , 45acp and 38 special) and on top of it , it’s funny most law enforcement agencies use this particular round for their sidearm chambering for a reason. Don’t get me wrong , I own handguns chambered in 9mm , 40 s&w and 45 acp , with 45 acp being my favorite , but 40 is my top choice for carry and utility use , as I find 9mm being more of a fun round (even though I do carry an m&p Shield 9 at times) and 45 being more of a novel but still fun round to shoot . In my experience , and years of owning many firearms chambered in all 3 , 9mm (with its great ammo capacity) is a little under powered for my liking , for a defensive , threat stopping situation , and 45 acp is a little slow and to some , the capacity is a minus (even though I say you don’t need a lot of 45 acp firepower) but it does have a lot of stopping power , and as for 10mm , it’s a good round but suffers from over penetration (just like 357 sig) In ending , All four are great rounds and will get the job done , I just think 40 is a good compromise of power , capacity , speed and cost , I just wanted to remind people that 9 mm and 45 acp are great rounds ,and not saying one is better than the other, but that 40 is no slouch .


Edited by tonyglock40man (06/09/18 10:45 AM)
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#1362357 - 06/09/18 07:02 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Agreed.
Well written and if any fellas want to get rid of a Beretta model 96 or a PX4 in a .40SW that they wish to liquidate, feel free to PM me.
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#1362377 - 06/09/18 07:50 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Caution... the massive recoil of 40 will make your skinny jeans fall down.
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#1362400 - 06/09/18 09:00 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Well Said.

I want a Pistol that when I run out of ammo, I can take and bash brains till I get back to my Axe.

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#1362431 - 06/09/18 10:44 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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LAUGHING MY ARSE OFF !!!!!!!! laugh
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#1362432 - 06/09/18 10:48 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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I wounder how well a Sig P-320 will live up to being able to bash in skulls when knee deep in trench mud.
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#1362675 - 06/09/18 10:10 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Luke it Sounds like you need a trench club or knuckle duster from WWI lol or maybe the butt of a Gew 98 laugh
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#1362700 - 06/10/18 06:07 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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An entrenching tool, with a sharpened edge cuts nicely through the muck and necks.
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#1363652 - 06/12/18 07:55 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Handgun enthusiasts are revisiting the 10mm because of its wonderful traits. Law Enforcment agencies are moving away from the .40 in droves and back to the 9mm. Modern 9mm JHP ammunition and current training tactics mitigate any gain the .40 once gave you. I carried a .40 for almost a decade and switched my carry gun to a .45 for a short while and then transitioned to the 9mm where I have been for the last 5 years. I see benefits to each caliber but the 9mm comes out on top for me due to increased capacity, faster shot recovery and the performance of modern 9mm JHP.


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#1363734 - 06/13/18 06:28 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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I Agree. Just to note that if in a market of availability where only one can shoot what is found or legislated.

A basic 115 grain 9mm FMJ vs a 165 or 185 grain .40SW FMJ

...I would choose the .40 over the 9mm.

9mm is dependent upon having more modern loads of higher grains and HP.
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#1364133 - 06/14/18 09:48 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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I will agree that 9mm is smooth as butter , great follow up shot placement as well
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#1364595 - 06/15/18 02:42 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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I believe it's simply the fact that most don't want to have to buy yet another caliber.

For me, that's why I don't own anything in 40 smith.
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#1364800 - 06/15/18 11:30 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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So why not 9 or 45 ? It’s always 40 ? Lol

If I had to choose a caliber to dump it’d be 9mm because it’s honestly just fun to shoot but doesn’t have a lot of utility use for me because I mainly carry a 40 cal , I’ve shot many of the same targets with both and 40 still has more knockdown power and does more damage
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#1367872 - 06/25/18 08:45 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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The 40s/w is a fabulous round ,but requires more patience and practice for most shooters to be as comfortable and as accurate as the 9mm.Hence ,not all of us have range availability and or range time to infest in just one caliber. Having said that ,the 40s/w is my favorite carry round.

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#1368120 - 06/25/18 10:31 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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40 does take some practice as appears to 9mm , which is a very smooth and accurate round for sure ! That’s why it’s so fun to shoot !
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#1368127 - 06/25/18 11:54 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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It's good for the market for everyone to switch. Somebody is gonna get shot with a 9mm a couple times and everyone will switch to something else. I like big bullets and I can not lie!!!
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#1441340 - 01/05/19 08:05 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Everyone should keep hating on 40 so the prices will fall and I could build up my collection smile

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#1441414 - 01/05/19 11:13 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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I have a nice one for sale with not a single offer and it includes a 9mm barrel too.
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#1441472 - 01/05/19 01:33 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Not a damn thing wrong with .40S&W...'cept girly men and fear of the MASSIVE RECOIL.
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#1441587 - 01/05/19 07:25 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: A Virginian]
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Originally Posted By: A Virginian
I have a nice one for sale with not a single offer and it includes a 9mm barrel too.




Yeah, its the caliber....

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#1441598 - 01/05/19 07:54 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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The 40 S&W is a wussified 10mm.

If a shooter cannot handle the 10mm or 45acp they should move down to the 9mm, which, with modern bullets and powders can do about anything the 40S&W can do, while holding more rounds.

Personally, I like the 40S&W guns because after a simple barrel change to 357sig I have a flat shooting, hard hitting 9mm Magnum!
The 357Sig is, IMO, the most versatile cartridge in existence.
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#1453030 - 02/02/19 12:35 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: sousana]
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Originally Posted By: sousana
I believe it's simply the fact that most don't want to have to buy yet another caliber.

For me, that's why I don't own anything in 40 smith.


My thoughts exactly, I like to reduce the different types of rounds I buy to as few as possible. If only Costco would get their head out of their **I miss Obama** and start carrying some 9mm rounds!

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#1531986 - 08/30/19 07:41 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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Honestly that is where the 40 was born because the FBI felt that the 10mm was overkill (I guarantee it was more the price than power) but at the same time all of their service revolvers could only carry 6 rounds at a time , but here’s the thing ......... if they could carry a full power 357 magnum ? Why couldn’t they handle a 10mm handgun especially a semi auto at that ? 357 hollow points have ALOT more punch than 10mm or even 45 acp ! And I think the hate for the 40 s&w is more just a bandwagon thing than just factual reasons , because you can never have too many guns and calibers !!!! You have your “tool/utility” guns and rounds that you use for such purpose , which I divide into several sub categories :

A: personal carry
B: home defense
C: shtf
D: hunting
E: truck gun/behind the back door gun (and these can (but not always) fall into the hunting category as well.

Then you have the two other categories

A: collecting

And

B: not either collectible or useful as a tool or utility gun per say but it’s just cool as hell !!!!!

That being said , I do believe 40 falls in there where 45 acp and 10 mm is very expensive and 9mm doesn’t have the punch as some would like , 40 has its haters laugh

9mm does have speed and capacity and very affordable

45 has knock down power on its side but slow and pricey

10 mm has the power and speed but is cumbersome and very pricey and hard to find as opposed to 9mm , 40 and 45 ......

I just believe that 40 has the perfect blend between power , penetration and price , especially for a carry gun , I’ve even read on several occasions where 40 s&w has stopped a bear , head shots of course , but it did ......... I’ve read incidences and known personally law enforcement who praise the 40 s&w , most felt that 9mm wasn’t powerful enough in most cases and 357 Sig (I’m just going there because some of the police I know personally are issued in the Richmond police department and state police) feel that it is overkill and over penetration

Again , I own several pistols in 9mm , 40 and 45 and I aspire to own a pistol in 357 Sig (honestly I have no use for a 10mm , no hate against it , I will probably own one eventually as I’ve owned just about everything else) but I’m just trying to understand the hatred there is for 40 s&w and why ? I think it has its place just like 9mm , 45 acp , 38 special and 357 magnum .


Edited by tonyglock40man (08/30/19 07:57 AM)
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#1532001 - 08/30/19 08:03 AM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: Cash is King]
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Originally Posted By: Cash is King
Not a damn thing wrong with .40S&W...'cept girly men and fear of the MASSIVE RECOIL.



laugh Leonard !!!!!!!!!!
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#1533705 - 09/03/19 05:24 PM Re: Why so much hate for the 40 s&w ? [Re: tonyglock40man]
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I dont mind all the hate. I love .40 and there are smokin' deals on them now.

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