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#1512250 - 07/09/19 10:06 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Cash is King]
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Nice guy... NO MORE

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Loc: Woodbridge/Stafford/Gloucester...
City or County: Prince William, Stafford & Gloucester monthly.
Ok Frosty...

Same drill... cite Code, VDGIF, CW Attorney opinion, precedent, ... or the Framer's Almanac

1) Vehicle carry of a loaded SBR AR-10 in Fairfax County?

2) Vehicle carry of a loaded 9" AR-15 with 200 round magazine and a SIG BRACE in Fairfax County?

3) Vehicle carry of a loaded Shockwave 12 gauge in Fairfax County?

4) Vehicle carry of a loaded Glock 19 in Fairfax County? AND WHY!

5) Vehicle carry of a loaded Glock 19 to your job at the Pentagon Via the GWMP? AND WHY?

6) I plan to carry a loaded shotgun (plain view and secured (but not cased) in my vehicle from Woodbridge VA (22192) to Gloucester (23061)... how many laws am I violating?

*Footnotes

My hunting license is current... coyotes (+ 11 other critters) are 24/7/365 "IN SEASON"

Lead is NOT YET unlawful (except for D&G)...


Edited by Cash is King (07/09/19 10:13 PM)
Edit Reason: Forgot the 9"
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#1512356 - 07/10/19 09:37 AM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Cash is King]
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Originally Posted By: Cash is King
Similar to Preemptive (kinda) are Nullification Laws...

http://concealednation.org/2019/03/under...-you-in-prison/


20 free kittens for an intelligent debate RE: Marijuana Legalization in States vs. Gun Nullification Laws...
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#1512509 - 07/10/19 05:14 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Cash is King]
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These new gun laws would discourage any cooperation or mutual respect between CCW's and Cops. If a law enforcement officer asked "Do you have any weapons in the vehicle?" The correct response is now "I don't answer questions or speak to police without my attorney present". Forces everyone to be a D-Bag and makes Cops and Citizens into adversaries. The gun community has been pretty much the only demographic that is pro police, if they lose us they have literally no one left rooting for them.

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#1512526 - 07/10/19 05:56 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Cash is King]
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Yeah, I'm not touching that.

My advice is to CYA, consult your attorney.

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#1512606 - 07/10/19 09:08 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: FrostyEOD]
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Originally Posted By: FrostyEOD
Yeah, I'm not touching that.

My advice is to CYA, consult your attorney.


LOL...

YEPP... The laws are VERY COMPLICATED...

Is an SBR a Long Gun?

Does a Sig Brace make an AR-15 a pistol?

Is a Shockwave 12 gauge a shotgun?

Pistols (Glock 19 example) are SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN DETAIL in the Virginia Code... Long Guns and Shotguns... not so much.

GWMP question... A small part of the GWMP is actually in DC (NOT Virginia)... Arlington Bridge area...

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Point is... Laws are damned complicated... EVERY NEW LAW COMPLICATES THEM FURTHER...

Full circle...

Originally Posted By: Cash is King
Enforcing existing gun laws will immediately lower crime...

Imagine that...
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#1512699 - 07/11/19 06:49 AM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Cash is King]
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I believe if the OAL is less than 26" and does not have a buttstock or a vertical attachment on the forestock and it is originally purchased/registered as a pistol, it's a pistol?

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#1512775 - 07/11/19 10:45 AM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Mark S]
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Originally Posted By: Mark S
I believe if the OAL is less than 26" and does not have a buttstock or a vertical attachment on the forestock and it is originally purchased/registered as a pistol, it's a pistol?


Excellent example of the confusion...

If you do not know (...nor does the arresting officer)... the intimidation factor takes over in the confusion... and people go unarmed... or lesser armed than they might want to be.

THAT IS THE GOAL!

That is also the subtext of this entire post...

Frosty is dang smart... so is Mark... I have 1/2 a brain.

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When I would ask a stupid question he would snarl at me... "Look it up in the Big book." I hated that big book.
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#1513262 - 07/12/19 05:44 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Cash is King]
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Single barrel

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Thing is there is no stupid questions some are just poorly thought out.

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#1513264 - 07/12/19 05:56 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Jpfreek19]
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Originally Posted By: Jpfreek19
Thing is there is no stupid questions some are just poorly thought out.


No, there are some incredibly stupid questions out there. That's a feel good line from gen x parents and teachers. Gotta make everyone feel good and win a trophy for doing nothing
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#1513326 - 07/12/19 09:16 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Cash is King]
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Single barrel

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If it is a question someone honeslty does not know it is no stupid question. It becomes stupid when someone doesn't stop long enough to think for themselves about the answer.

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#1513360 - 07/12/19 10:44 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Jpfreek19]
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Originally Posted By: Jpfreek19
If it is a question someone honeslty does not know it is no stupid question. It becomes stupid when someone doesn't stop long enough to think for themselves about the answer.


That's right Austin...

Honest men try... But ask for help when they need it... No one knows the answer to everything, but knowing where to find the answer is proof one seeks wisdom.

Personally, I ask for help all the time. Especially when it comes to experts helping fix my crummy welds. LOL
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#1513455 - 07/13/19 08:18 AM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Jpfreek19]
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Originally Posted By: Jpfreek19
If it is a question someone honeslty does not know it is no stupid question. It becomes stupid when someone doesn't stop long enough to think for themselves about the answer.


Stupidity and ignorance are different. Ignorance is what you are referring to, and that's acceptable and far preferred to being stupid. I myself am generally an ignorant dumb **I miss Obama** , and that is a totally different category. It comes from being hard headed, which usually requires me to ask a few questions after I thought I knew but didn't really know. wink


Edited by Verylargeboots (07/13/19 08:20 AM)
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#1513726 - 07/13/19 10:14 PM Re: Imagine that... [Re: Verylargeboots]
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Originally Posted By: Verylargeboots
Originally Posted By: Jpfreek19
If it is a question someone honeslty does not know it is no stupid question. It becomes stupid when someone doesn't stop long enough to think for themselves about the answer.


Stupidity and ignorance are different. Ignorance is what you are referring to, and that's acceptable and far preferred to being stupid. I myself am generally an ignorant dumb **I miss Obama** , and that is a totally different category. It comes from being hard headed, which usually requires me to ask a few questions after I thought I knew but didn't really know. wink


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