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#1525646 - 08/13/19 03:15 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
James Offline
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As for my firearms, or lack there of. They would be too late as my ex buried me financially last year in a bad separation and left me nothing but a pot to .....
I’m sure my fellow man can finish my sentence...
A woman will take more from you than the government will.....
That’s all I gotta say.


Edited by James (08/13/19 03:15 PM)
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#1525786 - 08/13/19 09:12 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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The 1st Government of America, also thought they could force compliance by authority.

The Sons of Liberty was a secret organization that was created in the Thirteen American Colonies to advance the rights of the European colonists and to fight taxation by the British government. It played a major role in most colonies in battling the Stamp Act in 1765.

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#1526485 - 08/16/19 07:21 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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I think that it will advance the cause of no gun control if folks hear just a slightly different perspective from time to time. I got bashed by one dude on a different post because I made a joke. Tensions are rightfully high, but all must maintain clear heads in order to put up a rational, targeted fight. -member VCDL, ASA
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#1526547 - 08/16/19 09:33 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: wscrst]
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Originally Posted By: wscrst
There is always a lot of tough talk around the government coming for your guns. Please give a shout if you would shoot a police officer, deputy, member of the national guard, or member of the US armed forces if they were dispatched to disarm you. Please remember that they have tanks and drones and planes and helicopters and rocket launchers and machine guns. Really, put yourself out there. Who is going to kill one of these folks who is currently serving admirably to protect us and our country.

Allow me to put myself out there... At that point, these people that you speak of will no longer be serving the country. They would become agents of tyranny and enemies of freedom. Period. You just painted a picture in which an SS like presence is going door to door, removing weapons that we have a constitutional right to own. Time to hit the history books, my man facepalm
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#1526574 - 08/16/19 10:03 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: Bcmgunfighter]
imaduckin Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bcmgunfighter
Originally Posted By: wscrst
There is always a lot of tough talk around the government coming for your guns. Please give a shout if you would shoot a police officer, deputy, member of the national guard, or member of the US armed forces if they were dispatched to disarm you. Please remember that they have tanks and drones and planes and helicopters and rocket launchers and machine guns. Really, put yourself out there. Who is going to kill one of these folks who is currently serving admirably to protect us and our country.

Allow me to put myself out there... At that point, these people that you speak of will no longer be serving the country. They would become agents of tyranny and enemies of freedom. Period. You just painted a picture in which an SS like presence is going door to door, removing weapons that we have a constitutional right to own. Time to hit the history books, my man facepalm

THIS
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#1526966 - 08/17/19 09:18 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: Bcmgunfighter]
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Originally Posted By: Bcmgunfighter
Originally Posted By: wscrst
There is always a lot of tough talk around the government coming for your guns. Please give a shout if you would shoot a police officer, deputy, member of the national guard, or member of the US armed forces if they were dispatched to disarm you. Please remember that they have tanks and drones and planes and helicopters and rocket launchers and machine guns. Really, put yourself out there. Who is going to kill one of these folks who is currently serving admirably to protect us and our country.

Allow me to put myself out there... At that point, these people that you speak of will no longer be serving the country. They would become agents of tyranny and enemies of freedom. Period. You just painted a picture in which an SS like presence is going door to door, removing weapons that we have a constitutional right to own. Time to hit the history books, my man facepalm




1+, BCM.

........
Also, wscrst... if you think you were bashed in the silly thread you called humor (after being called on it) your skin is ultra thin. Imho, learn how to tell a joke.
Your recent posts do scream Troll.
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#1527180 - 08/17/19 07:02 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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ROFL. 1) the government cannot use its 'Tanks & drones & rocket launchers' & etc against the rebellion. In 4G warfare, they must maintain the appearance of the moral high-ground. The worlds media squawking about the US government slaughtering its own people is something they will not risk. As soon as we would actually enter a situation of armed rebellion, the government loses and they know this. It is in their red team analysis for the last 20 years.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJh7Ye1Qvc8&t=451s

While this video is incorrect on a couple of things, his information is MOSTLY correct. And to the point - if they are violating the Constitutional rights of citizens', they most assuredly are not "Folks who is currently serving admirably to protect us and our country" - they would be the agents of tyranny. Who would kill one (or many) agents of Tyranny while defending our RIGHTS? This guy and my family for starters. +1 BCM!!
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#1527763 - 08/19/19 10:34 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
Va Hunter Offline
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The government has already decided to use the UN for confiscation since many local law enforcement will refuse to do so. This info comes from the pentagon. Those blue helmets will make excellent targets.

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#1527928 - 08/19/19 04:23 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: Va Hunter]
imaduckin Offline
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Originally Posted By: Va Hunter
The government has already decided to use the UN for confiscation since many local law enforcement will refuse to do so. This info comes from the pentagon. Those blue helmets will make excellent targets.

then they will have to go after private owners in law enforcement and military also, good luck with that. A full confiscation would be near impossible without resistance, they could not afford a full blown action, so all they could do is small confiscations which inevitably would become news resulting in gun owners moving their guns to other locations or other means of hiding them. in the end everyone on both sides would create a turmoil that would weaken this country to the point of failure


Edited by imaduckin (08/19/19 07:03 PM)
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#1529996 - 08/24/19 11:41 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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The biggest scare is how many police and military would enforce the law at all. How many would be on our side.
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#1530000 - 08/25/19 12:02 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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They will just follow orders so don't kid yourself, sure some will resist but it has been proven throughout history that man is a two faced hypocrite. Plenty of incidents to prove my comment, a more recent one is what happened in a nice neighborhood after Hurricane Katrina, they didn't go into ghettos to confiscate firearms did they?

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#1530002 - 08/25/19 12:10 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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I think NY had a very low compliance rate when people were told to register every weapon they had. Doubt they will get it on a Federal Level. Maybe on a state level. The court would decide in our favor.
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#1541317 - 09/24/19 01:37 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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Female gun owners Tells Robert Francis O'Rourke "Beto", Hell NO!


https://news.yahoo.com/gun-owner-warns-beto-hell-173851719.html
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#1547895 - 10/11/19 06:28 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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Well, as long as they are shredding the Constitution.......

The Constitution of the United States forbids Congress and the states to pass any ex post facto law. ... (clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution).

Ex post facto is most typically used to refer to a criminal statute that punishes actions retroactively, thereby criminalizing conduct that was legal when originally performed.

Which is why the 1994 AWB only made further purchases illegal,
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#1548147 - 10/12/19 12:45 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: P3Bill]
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Originally Posted By: P3Bill
Well, as long as they are shredding the Constitution.......

The Constitution of the United States forbids Congress and the states to pass any ex post facto law. ... (clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution).

Ex post facto is most typically used to refer to a criminal statute that punishes actions retroactively, thereby criminalizing conduct that was legal when originally performed.

Which is why the 1994 AWB only made further purchases illegal,




Wish you were right, but this would not be an ex post facto law. Nobody is going to criminalize past possession, only future ownership.

94 awb had a grandfather clause because anything else wasn't politically tenable....at that time.

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#1555114 - 10/30/19 08:05 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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IF I HAD ANY GUNS ........... which I don’t because they were lost in the great flood of 2003 , well , do y’all remember Lexington and concord ? And yes , if the police and military start going door to door trying to collect OUR property , then the war has already started and they will be no more than the gestapo or NKVD of the Democrats or even more so , the “elitists” .


Edited by tonyglock40man (10/30/19 08:17 PM)
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#1557299 - 11/06/19 08:09 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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We will soon find out what owners will do...

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#1557387 - 11/06/19 01:05 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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Bloomberg and the Dems want to make Virginia the strictest gun control state in the Union. They want to do this to smear it in the face of the NRA.

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#1557669 - 11/07/19 09:13 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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So many keyboard warriors here.. Most of whom probably sat on their butts all day doing nothing on 11/5/19 and will do the same on the day of confiscation.

Sheep pretending to be sheepdogs.

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#1557681 - 11/07/19 09:49 AM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: HOTBRASS]
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Originally Posted By: HOTBRASS
So many keyboard warriors here.. Most of whom probably sat on their butts all day doing nothing on 11/5/19 and will do the same on the day of confiscation.

Sheep pretending to be sheepdogs.

from your signature you may have been military, but dont lump everyone into a catagory when you dont know all there is to know about them

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#1557767 - 11/07/19 02:18 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: imaduckin]
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Spot on

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#1557862 - 11/07/19 06:39 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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Back to the OP's original question ... what happens if/when an AWB is passed.

IF the law that is passed looks anything like the version that was floated, it basically looks like a CA/Feinstein debacle.

- You must destroy or transfer the rifle out of state. No grandfathering. You must neuter, destroy or transfer any magazine of 10+ round capacity. Mere possession would become a VA Class 6 FELONY for each item.

- The definition of an assault weapon becomes DRAMATICALLY expanded. Any rifle that is capable of using a mag known to hold more than 10 rounds, and has an expanded list of "evil features". Any rifle with a fixed magazine, capable of holding more than 10 rounds would also be an assault weapon.

A member posted the supposed text of the bill in another thread on this forum. It's chilling.

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#1557940 - 11/07/19 10:42 PM Re: "Assault Weapons" Owners After a Ban? [Re: lburgguy]
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Ya this could get ugly and certain guns could be unsellable
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