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#290683 - 03/13/12 02:09 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Ddraig]
LeupoldMk4 Offline
Curmudgeon

Registered: 01/15/12
Posts: 941
Loc: Virginia USA
City or County: SW Va
Originally Posted By: Ddraig
Of all the prepping topics this is the kind of scenario that freaks me out the most. Not really sure what I would do or use since I don't have any kind of firearms yet, but hopefully would work towards preventing them from coming to my house....

I'm further back in a subdivision, so hopefully I would know they're coming before hand. If possible I may even throw stuff out in the yard, leave the doors wide open, and go hide in a safe spot in the house. To make it look like the house had been looted already. Those are just some of the ideas I have had.

I really don't know what to think about that shocked
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#290770 - 03/13/12 05:44 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Ddraig]
Ledchunkr Offline
Just a 'nuther grunt

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 4200
Loc: just south of Richmond,VA
City or County: tri cities
Well Ddraig ... everybodies gotta start somewhere and you've come to just the right spot to start yer "inventory" build up grin Don't let the blues getcha down man. The fact that yer searching and prepping your mind first off is a good jump ahead of the "buffaloed" masses who will wait for a "news at 6" update to clue them in (good luck on that).

Don't know how sociable or interactive your subdivision is, but the more folks you can wake up, the more eyes the "group" will have. Keep at it and don't give up !
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#291174 - 03/14/12 12:59 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Ledchunkr]
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B * L * U * E

Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 5136
Loc: NoVA 22192
City or County: NoVA 22192
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#294556 - 03/21/12 08:36 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Ledchunkr]
Ddraig Offline
Single barrel

Registered: 01/29/12
Posts: 36
Loc: Culpeper, VA
City or County: Culpeper, VA
Originally Posted By: Ledchunkr
Well Ddraig ... everybodies gotta start somewhere and you've come to just the right spot to start yer "inventory" build up grin Don't let the blues getcha down man. The fact that yer searching and prepping your mind first off is a good jump ahead of the "buffaloed" masses who will wait for a "news at 6" update to clue them in (good luck on that).

Don't know how sociable or interactive your subdivision is, but the more folks you can wake up, the more eyes the "group" will have. Keep at it and don't give up !


Thanks!

Yea, just got my first gun this weekend from DK Arms at the fredricksburg gunshow. Now to find a good class, and range to shoot at smile

How would you recommend approaching people? I'm not a very big extrovert. In fact I try to actively avoid people in some situations.

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#294563 - 03/21/12 09:04 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Ddraig]
LeupoldMk4 Offline
Curmudgeon

Registered: 01/15/12
Posts: 941
Loc: Virginia USA
City or County: SW Va

Congratulations on making the move to protect your family and self.
I'm sure some of the members on here know of a good place to begin your training in the use of firearms close to where you live. Remember it's just a beginning, you never have learned enough or it all.


Hello my name is "your name goes here" I live across/down the street and I would to talk to you about how we can make our neighborhood safer.

Start with that.







Edited by LeupoldMk4 (03/21/12 09:08 AM)
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#495800 - 03/10/13 07:31 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
dovk0802 Offline
Addicted

Registered: 03/23/11
Posts: 511
Loc: MD
City or County: Bethesda
Violence should always be a last resort.

First, just calmly say "I think it would be best if you leave now."

Then say "Fire the FPF..."



I know, I'm not being serious.


Edited by dovk0802 (03/10/13 07:31 PM)
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#496044 - 03/11/13 02:49 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
obteene Offline
click click boom

Registered: 01/10/12
Posts: 129
Loc: va
City or County: Cumberland gap
The telephone, so I can call Obama and ask him to drone strike the front door.

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#496924 - 03/12/13 03:11 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
Crumpy Offline
Bullseye

Registered: 06/01/12
Posts: 1604
Loc: Asburn
City or County: Loudoun
That is really bad ***PLAY NICE***

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#499730 - 03/16/13 08:26 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
dovk0802 Offline
Addicted

Registered: 03/23/11
Posts: 511
Loc: MD
City or County: Bethesda
Sometimes marksmanship is about: sight alignment, breath control, & trigger squeeze. Sometimes: intersecting, flanking, enfilade, grazing, fire... Whatever works.
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#508046 - 03/28/13 08:07 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
Ali Offline
Gun fool

Registered: 01/08/12
Posts: 837
Loc: VA, USA
City or County: Fairfax
Whatever is closest to me. If I'm taken by surprise then its most likely a pistol, as it is for most of us, as the majority of us carry pistols on our person, not rifles or shotguns.

But if I had enough time to grab ONE and only ONE?

Busting down the door?

Although the shotgun would be better close quarters I think I'd want capacity...a la 1947.
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#535389 - 05/16/13 11:13 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
Hefley Offline
Double barrel

Registered: 12/14/12
Posts: 58
Loc: VA, USA
City or County: Reston
Depending on the size of this hypothetical "group"... 3 guys or less, probably my Benelli M2 (set up for 3-gun: 21" barrel, 8+1) which I keep loaded with 00 buck when it's not being used for sporting purposes.

Any more than 3 guys: the AR (16" Carbine) is probably a more appropriate tool for the job.

Hesitant to admit this (as it really makes me sound like a paranoid gun nut), but I have weapons strategically placed in my home, along with a "fallback" plan, so I won't be limited to one gun. As I retreat deeper into the house more weapons will become available to me. :-)

(don't worry, I don't have children or anything, just my wife and I and we both know exactly where each gun is and what condition each is in, i.e., 0, 1, or 2)

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#542197 - 05/29/13 04:20 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
Misfit Offline
Marine Vet

Registered: 11/30/12
Posts: 283
Loc: Virginia
City or County: NoVa
My fnx45 tactical fitted with rmr for quick target aqusition. 15 round 45capacity. Once I get my suppressor it will be perfect. No looters in the area will hear shots fired
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#548203 - 06/09/13 12:46 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
Epeeist Offline
Bullseye

Registered: 12/19/11
Posts: 1935
Loc: Charlottesville
City or County: Albemarle
If I had time to get to the safe, my Saiga 12 with the drum and a couple 12 round stick mags in my pockets. The drum with S&B 12 round 00 buck works out to 240 .32 caliber ways to say go away.

If I just have my normal house gun, Glock 20 with 6" barrel, light and extended mags.

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#548323 - 06/09/13 05:37 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
nontechguy Offline
Bolt action

Registered: 01/02/13
Posts: 160
Loc: VA
City or County: Somewhere
All of that might work, until the drone gets there. cry
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#566687 - 07/16/13 02:58 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Ddraig]
Lugnut Offline
Formerly known as Lug P. Nutterson.

Registered: 02/21/11
Posts: 133
Loc: VA, USA
City or County: Alexandria
Originally Posted By: Ddraig

Thanks!

Yea, just got my first gun this weekend from DK Arms at the fredricksburg gunshow. Now to find a good class, and range to shoot at smile

How would you recommend approaching people? I'm not a very big extrovert. In fact I try to actively avoid people in some situations.


Originally Posted By: LeupoldMk4

Congratulations on making the move to protect your family and self.
I'm sure some of the members on here know of a good place to begin your training in the use of firearms close to where you live. Remember it's just a beginning, you never have learned enough or it all.

Hello my name is "your name goes here" I live across/down the street and I would to talk to you about how we can make our neighborhood safer.

Start with that.


I would respectfully disagree, and here's why. Especially for an introvert or someone who might be socially awkward (hey, I count myself in there in some ways), it is best to avoid the frontal approach. You need to breech the topic tactfully. The last thing you want to do is open a conversation with "making the neighborhood safe" or with anything remotely prepper- or security- or firearm-related. Especially in the climate this very minute! Do you want to be pegged as the "Neighborhood Watch Captain"? Remember that these days Up is Down, Right is Left and the things you once thought firm are pliable. While I've been delighted to see the prepper community and mindset take firm hold in the mainstream lately, I've also been dismayed at the people I once thought reasonable being turned into mental zombies. These days it is best to be cautious.

The best thing would be to approach from the flank. Strike up conversations about anything other than the topic you're really after. Sports...culture...TV shows...music; these are all good entries. But while you're doing this, learn to listen for indicators of how a person might lean opinion-wise, and I don't necessarily mean politically (although that also could be a good indicator). Once you've had a few conversations and are comfortable conversing with them, bring up a few pointed topics that can help you gauge their receptiveness. I've actually used these:

  • "You know, they had generators on sale at Harbor Freight and I grabbed one because last year when the power went out we lost nearly everything in our fridge. I think I still have the coupon if you're interested in getting one." - This will give a clear indication of how concerned they are about preparing for the worst. Also it may clue you in as to whether they plan to simply mooch off of you. But even if they scoff at this, it doesn't mean they wouldn't band together for the good of a group; it merely means they don't really think ahead rationally.
  • "I used to go skeet shooting a lot but I haven't in a long time. Do you ever go? Are there any good skeet ranges around here?" - Talking about skeet shooting is awesome. It's the foot massage of gun-talk. It lets you breech the subject of guns in a way that doesn't seem to mean anything, but we all know it means something. If the person recoils in disgust you can write them off for anything further gun-related -- but no worries, we were just talking about shooting skeet! If they reply enthusiastically the chances are better that they are open to other firearm related stuff. Proceed likewise with talk of other gun-related activities.
  • "My cousin was living in New Orleans when Katrina hit. She says it was awful, and ever since then she stockpiles cans of food. I know! It's like that show about those preppers. But after hearing what she went through I really can't blame her." - See how this lets you play this off as someone else's "peculiarity"? Plus, you've said two magic words of the prepper movement: "New Orleans" and "Katrina" which basically gives the person in question free reign to do anything they want. You could tell them your cousin started kidnapping midgets and imprisoning them in a dungeon after that and it would be excused, with the admonition, "HEY, it was KATRINA! YOU WEREN'T THERE, MAN!"


You get the gist. The idea is to bring up the topics in an approachable way in order to see how they react. If they get a little squeamish then hold off for a while. Too many strikes and just write them off. But even a somewhat positive response could reveal someone who is willing to be converted. However, NEVER tip your hand until you are convinced they are into it at the same level as you. Even if they are somewhat lukewarm to one or two of your ideas, don't tell them about the ammo stockpile, the canned food hoard, the offline porn collection, etc.

If ever TSHTF making friends will be the number one survival skill. Best to lay the foundation now.
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#588988 - 08/28/13 08:38 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
Zombiedude Offline
Professional Zombie Hunter

Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 134
Loc: Peninsula, Zombieville
City or County: Newport News
Im grabbing my Stihl chainsaw and cutting my way out the door they are kicking in...unless I get shot by them....then I'm gunna act like a crazed maniac once I exit and chase em off....or cut em up?......Im saving the ammo for the zombies around the corner dude.
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#1043273 - 05/15/16 09:59 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
Cash is King Offline
Nice guy... NO MORE

Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 5720
Loc: Woodbridge/Stafford/Gloucester...
City or County: Prince William, Stafford & Gloucester monthly.
Joe... stop being paranoid... this scenario is IMPOSSIBLE under Obama or Hitlary.
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#1043321 - 05/16/16 03:40 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Cash is King]
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Great at putting the worm on the hook!!

Registered: 09/19/11
Posts: 440
Loc: NoVa
City or County: Woodbridge
MAK 90 or Arsenal 107 with a 75 round Chinese drum.
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#1053558 - 06/08/16 09:31 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Lugnut]
BoomerX62707 Offline
Crossbow Newbie!

Registered: 08/10/09
Posts: 332
Loc: Richmond
City or County: Richmond
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Edited by BoomerX62707 (06/08/16 09:33 AM)

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#1053559 - 06/08/16 09:32 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Lugnut]
BoomerX62707 Offline
Crossbow Newbie!

Registered: 08/10/09
Posts: 332
Loc: Richmond
City or County: Richmond
Originally Posted By: Lugnut
Originally Posted By: Ddraig

Thanks!

Yea, just got my first gun this weekend from DK Arms at the fredricksburg gunshow. Now to find a good class, and range to shoot at smile

How would you recommend approaching people? I'm not a very big extrovert. In fact I try to actively avoid people in some situations.


Originally Posted By: LeupoldMk4

Congratulations on making the move to protect your family and self.
I'm sure some of the members on here know of a good place to begin your training in the use of firearms close to where you live. Remember it's just a beginning, you never have learned enough or it all.

Hello my name is "your name goes here" I live across/down the street and I would to talk to you about how we can make our neighborhood safer.

Start with that.


I would respectfully disagree, and here's why. Especially for an introvert or someone who might be socially awkward (hey, I count myself in there in some ways), it is best to avoid the frontal approach. You need to breech the topic tactfully. The last thing you want to do is open a conversation with "making the neighborhood safe" or with anything remotely prepper- or security- or firearm-related. Especially in the climate this very minute! Do you want to be pegged as the "Neighborhood Watch Captain"? Remember that these days Up is Down, Right is Left and the things you once thought firm are pliable. While I've been delighted to see the prepper community and mindset take firm hold in the mainstream lately, I've also been dismayed at the people I once thought reasonable being turned into mental zombies. These days it is best to be cautious.

The best thing would be to approach from the flank. Strike up conversations about anything other than the topic you're really after. Sports...culture...TV shows...music; these are all good entries. But while you're doing this, learn to listen for indicators of how a person might lean opinion-wise, and I don't necessarily mean politically (although that also could be a good indicator). Once you've had a few conversations and are comfortable conversing with them, bring up a few pointed topics that can help you gauge their receptiveness. I've actually used these:

  • "You know, they had generators on sale at Harbor Freight and I grabbed one because last year when the power went out we lost nearly everything in our fridge. I think I still have the coupon if you're interested in getting one." - This will give a clear indication of how concerned they are about preparing for the worst. Also it may clue you in as to whether they plan to simply mooch off of you. But even if they scoff at this, it doesn't mean they wouldn't band together for the good of a group; it merely means they don't really think ahead rationally.
  • "I used to go skeet shooting a lot but I haven't in a long time. Do you ever go? Are there any good skeet ranges around here?" - Talking about skeet shooting is awesome. It's the foot massage of gun-talk. It lets you breech the subject of guns in a way that doesn't seem to mean anything, but we all know it means something. If the person recoils in disgust you can write them off for anything further gun-related -- but no worries, we were just talking about shooting skeet! If they reply enthusiastically the chances are better that they are open to other firearm related stuff. Proceed likewise with talk of other gun-related activities.
  • "My cousin was living in New Orleans when Katrina hit. She says it was awful, and ever since then she stockpiles cans of food. I know! It's like that show about those preppers. But after hearing what she went through I really can't blame her." - See how this lets you play this off as someone else's "peculiarity"? Plus, you've said two magic words of the prepper movement: "New Orleans" and "Katrina" which basically gives the person in question free reign to do anything they want. You could tell them your cousin started kidnapping midgets and imprisoning them in a dungeon after that and it would be excused, with the admonition, "HEY, it was KATRINA! YOU WEREN'T THERE, MAN!"


You get the gist. The idea is to bring up the topics in an approachable way in order to see how they react. If they get a little squeamish then hold off for a while. Too many strikes and just write them off. But even a somewhat positive response could reveal someone who is willing to be converted. However, NEVER tip your hand until you are convinced they are into it at the same level as you. Even if they are somewhat lukewarm to one or two of your ideas, don't tell them about the ammo stockpile, the canned food hoard, the offline porn collection, etc.

If ever TSHTF making friends will be the number one survival skill. Best to lay the foundation now.
Best response written. Ever.


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Very well said and a logical method to evaluate neighbors and your mutual value to each other in an emergency.
Boomer

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#1059768 - 06/23/16 07:27 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
longrifle64 Offline
Pea shooter

Registered: 08/18/12
Posts: 16
Loc: va
City or County: suffolk
Get out of the house . a Molotov cocktail will bring you out anyway . I have my bug out bag , g19, Ar , bulldog, water filtration gear and trapping and fishing gear.

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#1077821 - 08/09/16 05:07 AM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
us4stampers Offline
That dude

Registered: 12/13/12
Posts: 675
Loc: King William
City or County: West Point
I have a rock, Golf Club ,Pair of scissors, and a baseball bat.
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#1078202 - 08/09/16 09:47 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
aka-cyberman Offline
Double Tap

Registered: 01/12/10
Posts: 1745
Loc: Virginia, USA
City or County: Isle Of Wight County
Nothing will happen...
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#1081239 - 08/17/16 04:10 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
9mmchallenger Offline
Gun fool

Registered: 02/05/13
Posts: 857
Loc: Hopewell
City or County: hopewell
use my naa 22 revolver, ask them to wait 5 min while i reload it.

honestly if its a large group at my door im grabbing a ar and my mag bag for the range. if i run out of mags and ammo from that bag you wont be able to see my house from the street through the stack of bodies. but most likey they will have left before first mag change.

but ive considered senarios like this. large scale looting and etc. i live in a subdivision with 1 way in and out and im friendly with my neighbors and quite a few are leo and military or retiered from one or the other. i/we plan on (ps drunken conversations) to block off the one entrance with 2 straight on gaurds behind vehicles, 1 on each side at the houses at the entrance, 1 or 2 at the house at 12 oclock from entrance that sits partly elevated on a hill and 1 at the top of the hill(about 250y out) and create a nice little kill box for any unwanted guests. once again i think the first pile of bodies will be a nice deturent for any future problems,lol
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#1095084 - 09/20/16 08:21 PM Re: THEY'RE AT THE DOOR! A serious post for once! [Re: Just Joe]
2nd.amend Offline
Shooting blanks at Magnum force! ;)

Registered: 12/20/12
Posts: 3596
Loc: Gainesville va
City or County: Gainesville
I know it a old thread but still a relative topic !!!!!

I'd call 911. And hope !! LOL

If there beating on my front door I'll be running out the back!!!!
If there bad enough to make it that far I don't want to mess with them!!!!

I really should buy a gun and ammo!!!
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