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#1562703 - 11/21/19 11:43 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: scott9050]
gsintxz Offline
Marksman

Registered: 05/14/18
Posts: 371
Loc: Arlington, VA
City or County: Arlington
great... so does this mean firearms confiscation?

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#1562708 - 11/21/19 11:51 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
JoeShmoe Offline
Full Auto

Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 1524
Loc: va
City or County: fairfax
This all happened quickly, glad I moved across the border when I did. Keep in mind there are some moderate democrats that will most likely not vote for this.

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#1562726 - 11/21/19 01:37 PM Re: Four more gun control bills introduced - UBCs, 1 gun per month, etc. [Re: scott9050]
chank3 Offline
Single barrel

Registered: 03/07/19
Posts: 49
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Falls Church
Originally Posted By: scott9050
Originally Posted By: chank3
No you're not wrong. Anti-gunners have spend time and money silencing us in social media, in the news, and in the public forum. They take up all the airtime and that transcends into politics. The noise drowns out the pro-2A community, isolating us from the world and from each other, to the point we feel alone and ultimately resign. I couldn't tell you how many pro-2A people I meet up with in NOVA get surprised when they meet another gun owner. Gun owners didn't show up to the fight because they feel it's hopeless, because Moms-Demand-Action made them feel that way.


This is only the opening round as the governor has already proclaimed. Next is open carry to be made illegal. Then, Concealed carry will be made into a DC type requirement. Crime in Virginia is going to spike. The moments everyone thought could not happen in America are here.


Yup. Doesn't look good. But it doesn't mean we should lay down and give up. This is our home, and we best make like Virginians of the past and fight like hell to save it.

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#1562732 - 11/21/19 01:48 PM Re: Four more gun control bills introduced - UBCs, 1 gun per month, etc. [Re: chank3]
jr45 Online   content
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Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 1258
Loc: VA
City or County: Stafford
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Yup. Doesn't look good. But it doesn't mean we should lay down and give up. This is our home, and we best make like Virginians of the past and fight like hell to save it.


Yes, we must fight this! As you read the proposals, they are not just coming for the firearms, they are coming after our way of life. Even though the fear was there, a month ago I did not think this could truly happen here, kind of like a smoker thinks they will not get cancer. Well, the cancer is here and our only chance of survival is to fight it!

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#1562758 - 11/21/19 03:06 PM Re: Four more gun control bills introduced - UBCs, 1 gun per month, etc. [Re: Wojownik]
Willee51 Offline
One shot, one kill..

Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 469
Loc: Bedford County
City or County: Forest, VA
Time for Patriots to Draw a Line In The Sand, and to stand for the 2nd.

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#1562762 - 11/21/19 03:14 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: gsintxz]
scott9050 Offline
Double barrel

Registered: 04/29/11
Posts: 75
Loc: West Virginia
City or County: West Virginia
Originally Posted By: gsintxz
great... so does this mean firearms confiscation?


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/democr...-gun-purchases/

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#1562825 - 11/21/19 06:44 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
big_lu_lu Offline
Addicted

Registered: 02/20/10
Posts: 603
Loc: Richmond
City or County: Richmond
I would certainly hope that VCDL is already in touch with the national organizations I previously mentioned. Having minority gun owners will be critical as will the big national organizations as they have deep pockets and its clear that Virginia IS the place and time for these far reaching laws. We need lobbyists, organization, money, education of the public and legislators, not concede one inch, and be ready to challenge any new laws in the courts. They have already laid out the game plan and we know all the offensive and defensive moves...we just need to turn them into our favor.

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#1563588 - 11/23/19 05:07 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
jpm5321 Offline
Marksman

Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 373
Loc: VA
City or County: Prince George
It’s going to be a tough fight no matter how it goes.


Edited by jpm5321 (11/23/19 06:56 PM)

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#1564083 - 11/25/19 08:40 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
jr45 Online   content
Full Auto

Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 1258
Loc: VA
City or County: Stafford
I’m not understanding the proposed ban on pistols that weights over 50oz and accepts magazines. This would not apply to most pistols...Maybe this is directed at the AR15 type pistols, UZIs, etc.?

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#1564258 - 11/25/19 04:02 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: jr45]
Wojownik Offline
Bolt action

Registered: 10/14/10
Posts: 157
Loc: Northern VA
City or County: Fairfax / Loudoun
I think you're reading that correctly, they are trying to figure out how to restrict pistol configuration ARs and AKs.

Originally Posted By: jr45
I’m not understanding the proposed ban on pistols that weights over 50oz and accepts magazines. This would not apply to most pistols...Maybe this is directed at the AR15 type pistols, UZIs, etc.?

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#1564433 - 11/25/19 11:06 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
jpm5321 Offline
Marksman

Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 373
Loc: VA
City or County: Prince George
That’s exactly what they are going for.

It specifies accepting a detached mag outside of the pistol grip as well.

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#1564457 - 11/26/19 06:37 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
jr45 Online   content
Full Auto

Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 1258
Loc: VA
City or County: Stafford
Accepting magazine in grip and being over 50oz would be the UZIs, MACs, etc. but not sure if the 50oz applies...whole section is strange.

A semi-automatic centerfire pistol with a detachable magazine that has one of the following characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock; (iii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iv) the capacity to accept a magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (v) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the pistol with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (vi) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (vii) a threaded barrel… or (viii) any characteristic of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (vii);

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#1564494 - 11/26/19 08:33 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
BRDGUY Offline
If i'm right, it isn't guessing.

Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 351
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Spotsylvania
Get out and make a difference! 2A Sanctuary


Warren County to vote on resolution 12/10/19
Spotsylvania County to vote on resolution 12/10/19
King George County to vote on resolution 12/3/19
Rappahannock County to hear resolution on 12/2/19
Goochland County to vote on resolution 12/3/19
Powhatan County to vote on resolution on 11/25/19
Greene County to vote on resolution on 11/26/19
Wythe County to vote on resolution on 11/26/19
Prince Edward County to vote on resolution on 12/10/19
Floyd County to vote on resolution on 12/10/19
Louisa County to hear resolution on 12/2/19
Botetourt County to hear resolution on 11/26/19
Prince George County to vote on resolution on 12/10/19
Northumberland County to vote on resolution on 12/12/19
Page County to hear resolution on 12/3/19
Charles City County to vote on resolution on 11/26/19
Glouster County to vote on resolution on 12/3/19

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#1564709 - 11/26/19 09:38 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
HOTBRASS Offline
Poor Man South of Richmond

Registered: 06/22/11
Posts: 1609
Loc: Chester VA
City or County: Chester
Wow this is a scary thought.


Edited by HOTBRASS (11/27/19 05:11 AM)
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#1564780 - 11/27/19 07:01 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
BRDGUY Offline
If i'm right, it isn't guessing.

Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 351
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Spotsylvania
Washington County passed 7-0 for 2A Sanctuary

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#1564788 - 11/27/19 07:37 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
BRDGUY Offline
If i'm right, it isn't guessing.

Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 351
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Spotsylvania
HENRICO BOS meeting was last night, there was no formal agenda for the 2A topic but they did hear public comment on the issue.
Video here. Starts around minute 16:10
https://henrico-va.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3026

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#1564789 - 11/27/19 07:38 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
BRDGUY Offline
If i'm right, it isn't guessing.

Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 351
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Spotsylvania

Lots of info here. Everyone have a Happy Thanksgiving!



http://gunrightswatch.com/news/2019/11/2...nt-sanctuaries/


Go to home link when you navigate to page then click on the colorful state of VA


Edited by BRDGUY (11/27/19 07:39 AM)

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#1565036 - 11/27/19 10:24 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: BRDGUY]
KismetLRC Offline
Marksman

Registered: 07/08/12
Posts: 206
Loc: Richmond/Short Pump
City or County: Henrico
Originally Posted By: BRDGUY
HENRICO BOS meeting was last night, there was no formal agenda for the 2A topic but they did hear public comment on the issue.
Video here. Starts around minute 16:10
https://henrico-va.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3026


Thanks to all that showed up last night. Impressive presentations that will assure it's on Henrico's docket. While they made it clear that they "historically haven't gone against Commonwealth statutes", I'm sure they got the point. We'll need a thousand people to show up when it gets on the docket.

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#1565179 - 11/28/19 10:18 AM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
widefat Offline
Marksman

Registered: 12/09/09
Posts: 287
Loc: Rapidan
City or County: Orange
Orange County - the regular BoS meeting is Tuesday, 3 Dec.
Ya'll Orange folks show up and request ack and vote on 2A sanctuary status!

Note the Public Comment period will be held on Public School Property -



Date: 3 December, 2019
Time: 7pm, Public Comment Period
Location: Taylor Administration Complex
200 Dailey Drive, Orange Va 22960.

Any restrictions on carry, ie, the meeting is in a courthouse or school: YES! Restrictions – School Property!


.**NOTICE OF CHANGE**
15. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE HELD NO EARLIER THAN 7:30 P.M. AT THE ORANGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TAYLOR EDUCATION ADMINISTRATION COMPLEX*, 200 DAILEY DRIVE, ORANGE, VA 22960* THE POSSESSION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS OR FIREARMS ON ORANGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL PROPERTY IS NOT PERMITTED
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#1566179 - 12/01/19 05:31 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: Wojownik]
Dadcpu Offline
Potty Mouth Grandpa

Registered: 01/11/10
Posts: 8161
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Henrico County
When Henrico County puts it on the docket let me know so I can be there!
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You are the result of 4 billion years of evolutionary success. Act like it and....GET OFF MY LAWN!


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#1566526 - 12/02/19 01:09 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: widefat]
P3Bill Offline
VETERAN PEASHOOTER

Registered: 12/21/10
Posts: 1778
Loc: Wilderness
City or County: Orange County
Originally Posted By: widefat
Orange County - the regular BoS meeting is Tuesday, 3 Dec.
Ya'll Orange folks show up and request ack and vote on 2A sanctuary status!

Note the Public Comment period will be held on Public School Property -



Date: 3 December, 2019
Time: 7pm, Public Comment Period
Location: Taylor Administration Complex
200 Dailey Drive, Orange Va 22960.

Any restrictions on carry, ie, the meeting is in a courthouse or school: YES! Restrictions – School Property!


.**NOTICE OF CHANGE**
15. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE HELD NO EARLIER THAN 7:30 P.M. AT THE ORANGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TAYLOR EDUCATION ADMINISTRATION COMPLEX*, 200 DAILEY DRIVE, ORANGE, VA 22960* THE POSSESSION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS OR FIREARMS ON ORANGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL PROPERTY IS NOT PERMITTED



In order to speak, you must sign up. Here's how:

"Anyone wishing to address the Board during a public hearing must sign in on the forms that are located on the table outside of the Board Room. Forms should be submitted to the Chief Deputy Clerk, and speakers will be called in order. No disruptive signs, placards, noises, attire, or behavior will be permitted. Please silence all cell phones and other audible devices."
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#1569167 - 12/09/19 03:13 PM Re: VA Senate SB16 - Weapons and magazine bans introduced [Re: P3Bill]
jr45 Online   content
Full Auto

Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 1258
Loc: VA
City or County: Stafford
So, AG Herring is stating that whatever unconstitutional crap is passed, we, the people, are going to take like it or not.
“When the General Assembly passes it in the upcoming session, those laws are going to be enforced and they will be followed.”
AG Herring on 2nd Amendment

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