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#1587427 - 01/27/20 02:13 PM None of them are listening!
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As you maybe aware, none of the leftist elitists have yet listened to our calls. Look at the alert from VCDL below. If your rep is in "YEAS", they voted against our will and you must CALL them NOW. I have called and emailed my delegate, Carrol Foy, numerous times and reminding her that she represents us, which include sanctuary locations (part of Stafford and Prince William) and not Fairfax, Richmond or New York. She has voted in full defiance of what her constituents wants and thus, we will need to do everything in our power to ensure she is not reelected and if lucky, recalled.

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On Friday the House Public Safety committee met to hear a series of gun-control bills. This type of hearing is normally done in subcommittee, but they skipped the subcommittee meeting.

Some of the bills duplicated or were similar to each other. Those bills were rolled together into one single bill. No pro-gun bills were heard and all the gun-control bills passed out of committee and are headed to the Floor.

Here are the seven gun-control bills that came out of committee. Bad votes are in red, bi-partisan votes are underlined. Not a single Democrat on the committee voted even once to support gun owners. Delegates Ronnie Campbell and Amanda Batten stood with gun owners 100%:

HB 2, Plum, Universal Background Checks. It doesn't even allow for the loaning of a gun, even among hunters, unless both parties stay right next to each other the entire time. Passed on party-line vote:

YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins--13.

NAYS--Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten--9.

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HB 9, Bourne, requires reporting of a lost or stolen gun within 24 hours of the discovery of the loss or theft. This bill implies that the gun owner could be liable if the lost or stolen gun is used in a crime, unless it is reported within the 24-hours. That is a bad precedent. Passed by a vote of 15 to 7, with some Republicans supporting it:

YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins, Robinson, Coyner--15.

NAYS--Wright, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Batten--7.

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HB 421, Price, destroys the firearm preemption law, allowing localities to make confusing ordinances, resolutions, or motions that affect the possession, carrying, storage, or transport of firearms or ammunition. It passed on a party-line vote:

YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins--13.

NAYS--Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten--9.

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HB 1083, Hayes, makes it a felony to leave a loaded, unsecured firearm where someone under 18 years old has access to it. Many home invasions have been stopped by someone under 18 using a firearm. Passed by a party-line vote:

YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins--13.

NAYS--Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten--9.

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HB 674, Sullivan, Red Flag law. Sullivan claimed this bill will help prevents suicides. Baloney. It shreds the Constitution. Passed by a party-line vote:

YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins--13.

NAYS--Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten--9.

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HB 812, Ward, One Handgun a Month. Worst of two bills that were rolled together. There is no exemption for CHP holders that the old law had. Passed on a party-line vote:

YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins--13.

NAYS--Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten--9.

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HB 1004, Mullin, takes away a person's guns even in his own home if there is a protective order out against him, setting up that person to be murdered by a vengeful spouse or other person. Mullins had a chip on his shoulder when discussing his bill and was called out for how he was addressing fellow committee members who questioned him on the bill. Passed on a 20 to 2 vote, with many Republicans voting for the bill:

YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins, Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Coyner--20.

NAYS--Campbell, R.R., Batten--2.


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2. Action item: Let's flood the phone lines at the General Assembly!
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Let's make calls and send emails to both our Senator and Delegate, saying "no more gun control," including Red Flag laws, weakening of firearm preemption laws, any bans on guns, magazines, or suppressors, and Universal Background Checks.

Click here <https://vcdl.us20.list-manage.com/track/...mp;e=48ed4be23a> to take action.

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#1587534 - 01/27/20 06:15 PM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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I got the same thing emailed but my Legislator is not in the list???
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#1587788 - 01/28/20 10:58 AM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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They are defiant. They feel they are above us.

Maybe they will listen when the votes are counted.
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#1587796 - 01/28/20 11:15 AM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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Any excuse absentee voting and removing the photo id requirement means they will never be out of power again.


Edited by a_s (01/28/20 11:17 AM)
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#1588349 - 01/29/20 07:20 PM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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We must keep up the pressure!!!! Contact your rep!!

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#1588383 - 01/29/20 07:56 PM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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Very bad bills will be voted on tomorrow by your delegate! Even if it falls on deaf ears, contact your delegate now!!

https://act.nraila.org/actions/campaigns/7691

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#1590149 - 02/03/20 10:28 AM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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After dozens of emails and phone calls to my delegate (Carrol Foy), she, like many others like her, still voted against the rights of the people she is to represent. I am now believing that no matter how much we try to reason with our legislators through calls, rallies, etc., we will be ignored. It is obvious that the will of a few in Fairfax, Richmond, money from New York and California will be imposed on us.

Until we have identified replacements for the legislators and truly get the recall effort started, we will have to face some very serious problems which will be forced upon us. Does it now just come down to which new laws we comply with and which ones we don't?

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#1590375 - 02/03/20 07:34 PM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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I believe Stafford Cointy voted to be a 2a sanctuary. In meantime we can keep presure on local govts & commonwealth attorneys to not enforce unconstitutional laws (ie: any law that interfers with "keeping" & "bearing" arms.)

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#1590385 - 02/03/20 07:56 PM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: jr45]
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#1590428 - 02/03/20 09:21 PM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: nvcdl]
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Originally Posted By: nvcdl
I believe Stafford Cointy voted to be a 2a sanctuary. In meantime we can keep presure on local govts & commonwealth attorneys to not enforce unconstitutional laws (ie: any law that interfers with "keeping" & "bearing" arms.)


Unfortunately, I believe Northam and his goons will enforce some of the laws and bypass the locality’s resources, just as the ATF does. Being in a sanctuary does not offer much legal protection.

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#1590432 - 02/03/20 09:29 PM Re: None of them are listening! [Re: MetroBluing]
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Originally Posted By: MetroBluing


These bills have cleared the house as of 1Feb. As you can count the “Yeas”, you will see these delegates are not listening.

HB 2, Universal Background Checks – worse than the Senate bill in that is even applies to loaning a firearm to someone, including while hunting. Passed on a 54 to 46 vote. All bad votes were partisan and the good vote was bipartisan with one Democrat, Roslyn Tyler, voting against HB 2.
YEAS--Adams, D.M., Aird, Askew, Ayala, Bagby, Bourne, Bulova, Carr, Carroll Foy, Carter, Cole, J.G., Convirs-Fowler, Delaney, Gooditis, Guy, Guzman, Hayes, Helmer, Heretick, Herring, Hope, Hudson, Hurst, Jenkins, Jones, Keam, Kory, Krizek, Levine, Lindsey, Lopez, McQuinn, Mugler, Mullin, Murphy, Plum, Price, Rasoul, Reid, Roem, Samirah, Scott, Sickles, Simon, Simonds, Subramanyam, Sullivan, Torian, Tran, VanValkenburg, Ward, Watts, Willett, Madam Speaker--54.

NAYS--Adams, L.R., Austin, Avoli, Batten, Bell, Bloxom, Brewer, Byron, Campbell, J.L., Campbell, R.R., Cole, M.L., Collins, Cox, Coyner, Davis, Edmunds, Fariss, Fowler, Freitas, Gilbert, Head, Hodges, Kilgore, Knight, LaRock, Leftwich, Marshall, McGuire, McNamara, Miyares, Morefield, O'Quinn, Orrock, Poindexter, Ransone, Robinson, Runion, Rush, Tyler, Walker, Wampler, Ware, Webert, Wilt, Wright, Wyatt--46.

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HB 9, lost or stolen firearms to be reported within 24 hours. Passed on a vote of 55 to 44. The bad votes included two bipartisan-votes from Republicans Carrie Coyner and Roxanne Robinson. The good votes were also bipartisan with Democrat Roslyn Tyler opposing the bill:
YEAS--Adams, D.M., Aird, Askew, Ayala, Bagby, Bourne, Carr, Carroll Foy, Carter, Cole, J.G., Convirs-Fowler, Coyner, Delaney, Gooditis, Guy, Guzman, Hayes, Helmer, Heretick, Herring, Hope, Hudson, Hurst, Jenkins, Jones, Keam, Kory, Krizek, Levine, Lindsey, Lopez, McQuinn, Mugler, Mullin, Murphy, Plum, Price, Rasoul, Reid, Robinson, Roem, Samirah, Scott, Sickles, Simon, Simonds, Subramanyam, Sullivan, Torian, Tran, VanValkenburg, Ward, Watts, Willett, Madam Speaker--55.

NAYS--Adams, L.R., Austin, Avoli, Batten, Bell, Bloxom, Brewer, Byron, Campbell, J.L., Campbell, R.R., Cole, M.L., Collins, Cox, Davis, Edmunds, Fariss, Fowler, Freitas, Gilbert, Head, Hodges, Kilgore, Knight, LaRock, Leftwich, Marshall, McGuire, McNamara, Miyares, Morefield, O'Quinn, Orrock, Poindexter, Ransone, Runion, Rush, Tyler, Walker, Wampler, Ware, Webert, Wilt, Wright, Wyatt--44.

NOT VOTING--Bulova--1.

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HB 421, shreds much of Virginia's firearms preemption laws, allowing localities to create a mishmash of gun laws. Passed on a narrow two-vote margin of 50 to 48. Bad votes were partisan, good votes were bipartisan with Democrats Bulova, Carter, and Tyler opposing the bill.
YEAS--Adams, D.M., Aird, Askew, Ayala, Bagby, Bourne, Carr, Carroll Foy, Cole, J.G., Delaney, Gooditis, Guy, Guzman, Hayes, Helmer, Herring, Hope, Hudson, Hurst, Jenkins, Jones, Keam, Kory, Krizek, Levine, Lindsey, Lopez, McQuinn, Mugler, Mullin, Murphy, Plum, Price, Rasoul, Reid, Roem, Samirah, Scott, Sickles, Simon, Simonds, Subramanyam, Sullivan, Torian, Tran, VanValkenburg, Ward, Watts, Willett, Madam Speaker--50.

NAYS--Adams, L.R., Austin, Avoli, Batten, Bell, Bloxom, Brewer, Bulova, Byron, Campbell, J.L., Campbell, R.R., Carter, Cole, M.L., Collins, Cox, Coyner, Davis, Edmunds, Fariss, Fowler, Freitas, Gilbert, Head, Hodges, Kilgore, Knight, LaRock, Leftwich, Marshall, McGuire, McNamara, Miyares, Morefield, O'Quinn, Orrock, Poindexter, Ransone, Robinson, Runion, Rush, Tyler, Walker, Wampler, Ware, Webert, Wilt, Wright, Wyatt--48.

NOT VOTING--Convirs-Fowler, Heretick--2.

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HB 1083, makes it a FELONY for someone to leave a loaded, unsecured handgun where someone under 18 can get access to it. Passed on a vote of 54 to 46. The bad votes were partisan and the good votes were bipartisan, with Tyler opposing the bill.
YEAS--Adams, D.M., Aird, Askew, Ayala, Bagby, Bourne, Bulova, Carr, Carroll Foy, Carter, Cole, J.G., Convirs-Fowler, Delaney, Gooditis, Guy, Guzman, Hayes, Helmer, Heretick, Herring, Hope, Hudson, Hurst, Jenkins, Jones, Keam, Kory, Krizek, Levine, Lindsey, Lopez, McQuinn, Mugler, Mullin, Murphy, Plum, Price, Rasoul, Reid, Roem, Samirah, Scott, Sickles, Simon, Simonds, Subramanyam, Sullivan, Torian, Tran, VanValkenburg, Ward, Watts, Willett, Madam Speaker--54.

NAYS--Adams, L.R., Austin, Avoli, Batten, Bell, Bloxom, Brewer, Byron, Campbell, J.L., Campbell, R.R., Cole, M.L., Collins, Cox, Coyner, Davis, Edmunds, Fariss, Fowler, Freitas, Gilbert, Head, Hodges, Kilgore, Knight, LaRock, Leftwich, Marshall, McGuire, McNamara, Miyares, Morefield, O'Quinn, Orrock, Poindexter, Ransone, Robinson, Runion, Rush, Tyler, Walker, Wampler, Ware, Webert, Wilt, Wright, Wyatt--46.

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HB 674, Red Flag law. This bill is worse than the one that passed the Senate. Passed on a vote of 52 to 46. The bad votes were partisan and the good votes were bipartisan with Democrats Carter and Tyler opposing the bill.
YEAS--Adams, D.M., Aird, Askew, Ayala, Bagby, Bourne, Bulova, Carr, Carroll Foy, Cole, J.G., Convirs-Fowler, Delaney, Gooditis, Guy, Guzman, Hayes, Helmer, Heretick, Herring, Hope, Hudson, Hurst, Jenkins, Jones, Keam, Kory, Krizek, Levine, Lindsey, Lopez, McQuinn, Mugler, Mullin, Murphy, Plum, Price, Rasoul, Reid, Roem, Samirah, Scott, Sickles, Simonds, Subramanyam, Sullivan, Torian, Tran, VanValkenburg, Ward, Watts, Willett, Madam Speaker--52.

NAYS--Adams, L.R., Austin, Avoli, Batten, Bell, Bloxom, Brewer, Byron, Campbell, J.L., Campbell, R.R., Carter, Cole, M.L., Collins, Cox, Coyner, Davis, Edmunds, Fowler, Freitas, Gilbert, Head, Hodges, Kilgore, Knight, LaRock, Leftwich, Marshall, McGuire, McNamara, Miyares, Morefield, O'Quinn, Orrock, Poindexter, Ransone, Robinson, Runion, Rush, Tyler, Walker, Wampler, Ware, Webert, Wilt, Wright, Wyatt--46.

NOT VOTING--Fariss, Simon--2.

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HB 812, One Handgun a Month. This bill is worse than the one that passed the Senate in that it has no exception for CHP holders, the most law-abiding of the law-abiding. Passed on a vote of 53 to 47. Bad votes were partisan and good votes were bipartisan with Democrats Carter and Tyler voting against the bill.
YEAS--Adams, D.M., Aird, Askew, Ayala, Bagby, Bourne, Bulova, Carr, Carroll Foy, Cole, J.G., Convirs-Fowler, Delaney, Gooditis, Guy, Guzman, Hayes, Helmer, Heretick, Herring, Hope, Hudson, Hurst, Jenkins, Jones, Keam, Kory, Krizek, Levine, Lindsey, Lopez, McQuinn, Mugler, Mullin, Murphy, Plum, Price, Rasoul, Reid, Roem, Samirah, Scott, Sickles, Simon, Simonds, Subramanyam, Sullivan, Torian, Tran, VanValkenburg, Ward, Watts, Willett, Madam Speaker--53.

NAYS--Adams, L.R., Austin, Avoli, Batten, Bell, Bloxom, Brewer, Byron, Campbell, J.L., Campbell, R.R., Carter, Cole, M.L., Collins, Cox, Coyner, Davis, Edmunds, Fariss, Fowler, Freitas, Gilbert, Head, Hodges, Kilgore, Knight, LaRock, Leftwich, Marshall, McGuire, McNamara, Miyares, Morefield, O'Quinn, Orrock, Poindexter, Ransone, Robinson, Runion, Rush, Tyler, Walker, Wampler, Ware, Webert, Wilt, Wright, Wyatt--47.

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