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#1669493 - 08/28/20 04:34 PM Re: interesting ...... [Re: dustydog]
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Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/terrorism
noun
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

There is the definition of terrorism, whether you like it or not, it is what it is.
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#1669498 - 08/28/20 04:55 PM Re: interesting ...... [Re: dustydog]
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a-s,thank you for the above.
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#1669527 - 08/28/20 06:41 PM Re: interesting ...... [Re: Newgunguy]
JBaccheus Offline
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A liberal definition. Thats almost ironic in this case.

The current fed definition of terrorism:

“the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

My entire argument is that the term Terrorist has become overused in the same way that the title of Rascist has.

It was done so politicially and legally so as to cement powers of the government to investigate, arrest, detain, or even prosecute in a manner which would otherwise be an overreach of authority.

I would prefer to use other terms that still apply , such as looter, rioter, or pirate to refer to criminals of like kind, rather then jump all the way to terrorist.

Whats next, calling drone strikes on US territory?

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#1669528 - 08/28/20 06:42 PM Re: interesting ...... [Re: a_s]
JBaccheus Offline
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Hah, beat me to it.

I hope you can follow my reasoning for my use of lesser terms.

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#1670216 - 08/31/20 12:27 PM Re: interesting ...... [Re: madmanindc]
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Originally Posted By: madmanindc
What does it take to get term limits? Can it only be done by congress?


Could do it by legislation but the better way, in my opinion, would be to pass an amendment via congressional and state ratification or an Article Five Convention. I am a firm believer in term limits. An example of too long in congress would be non other than Biden. 50 years and nothing done except protection for credit card issuers, enrichment of his sons coffers and the firing of a Ukranian prosecutor. A perfect illustration of one year of experience 50 times.

I also would like to see an amendment, or legislation, requiring Congress to live under the same rules they impose on us. Healthcare, retirement, security (2A) and the like should be the same. Congress has set itself up as a cabal of elites. The Communist party (democrat) knows the socialism they intend to impose on us is not what they will have to live by. The Politbureau and the party apparatchiks in the USSR lived well, the middle class (who the dem party falsely claims to be the protectors of) not so well.

Congress should also provide complete transparency regarding the sex peccadillo indemnity fund run by that institution. Would be better if they did away with it altogether.

There are many things that need correcting. We need a complete overhaul. The Dems are trying to destroy our freedom, Constitution and our economy. WE need to return to the powers given to the fed gov. as stated in the Constitution. Self rule is the ultimate freedom. Unfortunately, the Republicans are either actively aiding this or passively letting it happen.

This is not a complete inventory of ills. Freedom does not come about under Marx/Engels but through limitations on the central governments' power. If the democrats party succeeds in November the country is finished as a free nation. As Thomas Paine stated "....when Republican virtues fails, slavery ensues". *

Don't vote Communist in Nov.

*. "Common Sense and Other Writings", Thomas Paine, Barns and Nobel Classics, 2005, page: 30


Edited by Paratus (08/31/20 12:32 PM)

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#1670285 - 08/31/20 05:33 PM Re: interesting ...... [Re: dustydog]
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Warren Buffett, in a interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:

“I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. “You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election.”

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote, for 18 year olds, took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971… before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land… all because of public pressure.

This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011
1. No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!


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#1670407 - 09/01/20 08:11 AM Re: interesting ...... [Re: dustydog]
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^^^this
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#1671250 - 09/04/20 12:47 AM Re: interesting ...... [Re: Dadcpu]
JBaccheus Offline
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Yes. 100%

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#1674884 - 09/16/20 06:25 PM Re: interesting ...... [Re: Paratus]
Fairtax Offline
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Registered: 11/19/13
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Loc: Virginia
City or County: New Kent
Originally Posted By: Paratus
Originally Posted By: madmanindc
What does it take to get term limits? Can it only be done by congress?


....Could do it by legislation but the better way, in my opinion, would be to pass an amendment via congressional and state ratification or an Article Five Convention. ....


An Article V effort has been underway for several years and is really gaining traction. Fifteen states have already passed matching applications restricted to proposals related to federal term limits, federal fiscal restraints, and reducing federal overreach.

The resolution in Virginia was passed in 2016 by the house, but was not passed by the senate. The great thing is that this process bypasses the governors (because it is a resolution and not a bill) and congress (because it says so in Article V....they knew that congress would not behave.)

Once 34 states have passed their resolutions, it allows all 50 states to meet. Each state only gets one vote. A simple majority on any proposed amendment is only a proposal. Passed proposals go back to the states to be ratified. 38 states are required to ratify, so 13 states can effectively kill anything stupid.

We have introduced it every year since then, and the Citizen petition count in Virginia is growing by nearly 1,000 per month. We just broke 51,000. But all 230 of the Soros organizations have come out against COS. Go figure.

Sign the petition and contact your state senator and delegate to pass HJ 5013. Convention of States

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