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#1629590 - 04/30/20 03:37 AM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Verylargeboots
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Registered: 10/10/16
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Why are folks on here so insistent on meddling with someone's pricing? There's this great thing called capitalism where people can attempt to buy and sell how they want. Free market economy. If someone wants to post a bone stock used and abused Glock 17 for $30,000 so what, that affects none of us, you aren't forced to buy it. Also, if you don't have the cash to buy whatever it is you are looking at and whining about, go drum up more cash OR move on and find something within your price range. Not that hard to figure out fellers. I'm always very amazed that folks on here seem so keen to tell the gov to keep their nose out of someone's business but they're more than happy to pounce on an opportunity to get some sort of extra pricing regulation or bump requirements. And stick their nose where it doesn't belong, since it doesn't affect you. Sounds like you've got some overpriced guns for sale  You've been here since February with zero feedback and all 6 posts as of today are in this thread. Pretty sure that means you've either created an account to be a purposeful troll, in which case congratulations, you've done an excellent job sir! This will continue to be highly entertaining and I look forward to shill posts and more Glock vs 1911 firestarters! If this isn't an account purposefully created to troll folks on here, that means that you created an account, scrolled aaaaaaaaaaaaallll the way past the yeet cannons, bang sticks and 30 caliber bullet clips and ended up here, where your first and only posts are to complain about somewhere you've only been a member of since February. To me, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but to each his own I suppose.
Edited by Verylargeboots (04/30/20 03:56 AM)
Edit Reason: Spelling. I am not good at it.
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#1630269 - 05/01/20 10:58 AM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Execprotect
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Registered: 06/22/14
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Why are folks on here so insistent on meddling with someone's pricing? There's this great thing called capitalism where people can attempt to buy and sell how they want. Free market economy. If someone wants to post a bone stock used and abused Glock 17 for $30,000 so what, that affects none of us, you aren't forced to buy it. Also, if you don't have the cash to buy whatever it is you are looking at and whining about, go drum up more cash OR move on and find something within your price range. Not that hard to figure out fellers. I'm always very amazed that folks on here seem so keen to tell the gov to keep their nose out of someone's business but they're more than happy to pounce on an opportunity to get some sort of extra pricing regulation or bump requirements. And stick their nose where it doesn't belong, since it doesn't affect you. Sounds like you've got some overpriced guns for sale No, its just new members always whining about prices because they think this site somehow defies the laws of capitalism (supply and demand etc.) We get one post a month from new members about why prices are high and it gets old. You join during a "panic" and then complain. Go live in France.
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#1630289 - 05/01/20 11:41 AM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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757ian123
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Registered: 02/08/20
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No, its just new members always whining about prices because they think this site somehow defies the laws of capitalism (supply and demand etc.) We get one post a month from new members about why prices are high and it gets old. You join during a "panic" and then complain. Go live in France. [/quote]
Dude you are totally missing the point. This isn't "supply and demand." I went into my local gun store yesterday and they are selling a G17 for $519. There are people on here asking $600.
What part of how foolish that is are you not understanding?
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#1630291 - 05/01/20 11:42 AM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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757ian123
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Registered: 02/08/20
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In fact, this is the exact OPPOSITE of capitalism because the people here clearly do NOT understand how pricing works.
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#1630309 - 05/01/20 12:12 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Verylargeboots
Professional FUDD Hater
Registered: 10/10/16
Posts: 728
Loc: VA
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In fact, this is the exact OPPOSITE of capitalism because the people here clearly do NOT understand how pricing works. Capitalism: cap·i·tal·ism noun An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state. Free market economy: free mar·ket noun an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses. With both of these definitions, you can replace businesses with individuals. Folks price how they want. You sound like a super duper price fixing socialist. Maybe America isn't for you. Like Execprotect said....move to France. Or Venezuela. You'll have far more legitimate complaints there.
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#1630312 - 05/01/20 12:25 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Verylargeboots
Professional FUDD Hater
Registered: 10/10/16
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Loc: VA
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Dude you are totally missing the point. This isn't "supply and demand." I went into my local gun store yesterday and they are selling a G17 for $519. There are people on here asking $600.
What part of how foolish that is are you not understanding? 
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#1630317 - 05/01/20 12:36 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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nvcdl
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Registered: 04/03/13
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If you can buy guns cheaper at a dealer than it makes sense to buy new. A lot of these over-priced Glocks (and AR-15) have been "customized" and people think they can recover the price of all the parts they added.
In reality custom guns are almost alway a money losing proposition. See the over priced guns as an opportunity and send the owner a polite message with a reasonable offer.
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#1630323 - 05/01/20 12:39 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Chingon
I know my first name is Bert.
Registered: 04/23/12
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Dude you are totally missing the point. This isn't "supply and demand." I went into my local gun store yesterday and they are selling a G17 for $519.
Then get it there and quit complaining about other people's "high prices". People selling their items on this and many other sites are not obligated to get you a good deal. Folks sell stuff for all sorts of reasons, and some of those reasons doesn't mean they are desperate to sell. Wanna deal? Haunt this place like the rest of us and be the first with an "I'll take it" when one pops up. Otherwise, keep waiting and don't buy anything. Unless you're willing to pay their prices, you'll leave emptyhanded every time, I guarantee you.
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#1630339 - 05/01/20 12:55 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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757ian123
Pea shooter
Registered: 02/08/20
Posts: 9
Loc: VA
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In fact, this is the exact OPPOSITE of capitalism because the people here clearly do NOT understand how pricing works. Capitalism: cap·i·tal·ism noun An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state. Free market economy: free mar·ket noun an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses. With both of these definitions, you can replace businesses with individuals. Folks price how they want. You sound like a super duper price fixing socialist. Maybe America isn't for you. Like Execprotect said....move to France. Or Venezuela. You'll have far more legitimate complaints there. Its ok, I know you are one of the people that overpaid for their guns and now you are upset because I made you realize it. Just consider it a lesson learned! Btw, I'm not a troll and thank you to the people who gave serious answers
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#1630341 - 05/01/20 01:02 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Verylargeboots
Professional FUDD Hater
Registered: 10/10/16
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Loc: VA
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Its ok, I know you are one of the people that overpaid for their guns and now you are upset because I made you realize it. Just consider it a lesson learned!
Btw, I'm not a troll and thank you to the people who gave serious answers
If anything, you've made me realize how stupid most newcomers are that join during this "panic". But, trolls gonna troll. Keep it up man, this is fun!
Edited by Verylargeboots (05/01/20 01:03 PM)
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#1630356 - 05/01/20 01:48 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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knutz
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Registered: 02/12/13
Posts: 16
Loc: Fredericksburg, VA
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Folks are always trying to recoup what they made customizing their guns. Start High cause you know folks will lowball. you end up coming out with a successful transaction. Or someone will pay your asking price, either way it's a win.
Reasons to pay more than retail:
a - you don't want to customize yourself
b - you would rather the government not have any record of your transaction.
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#1633220 - 05/07/20 06:05 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Verylargeboots
Professional FUDD Hater
Registered: 10/10/16
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Loc: VA
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Love it, MORE TROLLS MORE TROLLS
Bet it's one of those ThIn BlUe LiNe tHeYLl tEaR tHeIr BadGEs OfF DOnt TReAD On Me things.
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#1677876 - 09/26/20 08:38 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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JBaccheus
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Registered: 09/01/19
Posts: 73
Loc: VA
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I propose 2 changesThis board should allow members to post links in all "For Sale" posts. Links only - no comments Example: A poster advertises a Glock 20 for $675 with no comments. A member could post this link... https://www.esramey.com/handguns/semi-au...ock-oem-rail-15or https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/glock-20-sf-semi-auto-pistolPosting such links could accomplish several things. 1. Aid the seller in establishing a reasonable sale price. His item would sell promptly rather than sitting in a stagnate post because the seller unknowingly over-priced his item. 2. Aid potential buyers in establishing a value on a desired purchase (new vs. used gun). 3. Provide a service to folks browsing for a specific item (the seller probably has only 1), so it would be nice to know about a good deal on a new one elsewhere. 3. Prod the seller to give further details on their item justifying the extra asking price i.e. modifications, add-ons, finish, shipping, scarcity, etc. 4. Prod the seller to post photos to show the fantastic condition of their firearm. If the seller wishes to continue with the inflated price, for whatever reason, he can simply ignore the links. I ran a study on this site a couple years back. I posted several items at about "new" prices then bumped the items every few days and reduced the price slightly each time. I started getting responses at around 90% of Cabela's normal inflated price. If the price got to my bottom acceptable limit I pulled the ad. The other change to this site I would like to see is a 1-2 week post being allowed, then each bump must be accompanied with a price drop. ($5 or a %, whatever).  10/10. Let the so called 'capitalists' price competitively.
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#1679044 - 09/30/20 06:31 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Fairtax
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Registered: 11/19/13
Posts: 5
Loc: Virginia
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"In a free market, the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government or other authority, and from all forms of economic privilege, monopolies and artificial scarcities."
So sellers can set prices as they want. The buyers will let them know if they are in the ballpark of true value by either buying or ignoring.
The true value of anything is determined when a willing buyer and seller agree to transact business without duress or outside influence (panic buyer, eager seller, seller/buyer location, etc.).
I do wish that the board would make it a practice to more or less standardize the first line...if it is FS, a price is always required.
So why not require the price to be in the subject description if it is FS? And if it is only FT, or FT/FS, just say so right there in the subject line.
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#1679552 - 10/02/20 02:07 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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ktyhawk
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Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 3688
Loc: New Kent
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I do wish that the board would make it a practice to more or less standardize the first line...if it is FS, a price is always required.
So why not require the price to be in the subject description if it is FS? And if it is only FT, or FT/FS, just say so right there in the subject line.
Way back when this board first started that was pretty much the way it was. ie- For Sale Firearm X; price $425... and then the description would be next. With a zillion + members it is just to much trouble for the mods to try to keep up with that. I liked it much more 10 years ago.
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#1699574 - 12/04/20 11:37 AM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Jimmm
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When you buy a Glock at the store, you pay for only R&D and production costs. When you buy from bubba, you pay for T&E cost involved; cratches available at extra charge.
All kidding aside, ubc means 15% off to me not 15% premium. All the fudds with their bos got their wishes.
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#1699591 - 12/04/20 12:06 PM
Re: why are used glock prices more than new?
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Jimmm
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Panic buyers who want something and want it NOW! You can wait to pick up your NIB Glock from a gunstore in 10 days or you can get it from armslist from some dude this afternoon. 10 days? I got all gun show loopholes and buttholes to prove you’re wrong. I can also walk into any store and buy guns no questions asked, order full auto shipped to my Arizona’s ocean-front property, or print a bazooka off my printer.
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