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#1679782 - 10/03/20 10:59 AM
Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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So I’ve finally made my big safe decision. After months of research and looking at $3000 sheet metal boxes that I could punch through with a screw driver, I was between Sturdy, Brown, AMSEC BFII series and my conversion project. I’ve decided to convert a TL-30 jewelry/commercial safe into a gun safe. I’m still up in the air between a Worldwide TL-30 a Diebold TL-30 or an ISM Cash Vault (TL-30). The WW has a dial lock and high security key but no hole to run power. The Diebold has a single digital lock (not my favorite) but has a hole to run power. The ISM has a dial lock and high security key - I don’t know about the power hole. The WW and ISM are ~ 60H x 21D x 31W but the Diebold is significantly bigger (and heavier - 3300lbs) at ~69H x 29D x 36W. Decisions decisions..... once I choose delivery will be sometime in the next 3 weeks and I’ll post pics and get started. Any insight between those 3 safes would be appreciated in the meantime!
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#1679813 - 10/03/20 01:10 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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GermanSherman
Pea shooter
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Loc: Virginia
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I am probably in the minority but i dont like digital locks and prefer an S&G dial lock. As far as the lack of electricity hole, you can rig up a car or smaller battery box to run LED lights (or go with a small power pack and run a smaller USB led light) and maybe a golden rod (not sure on the power draw).
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#1679838 - 10/03/20 01:55 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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I’m with you on the digital lock. I prefer the standard S&G. I’m debating how difficult it will be to drill a 1/2 hole for a power cord and back fill with fire caulk. The safe isn’t a TL30x6 so the back shouldn’t be too bad - in theory....
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#1680370 - 10/05/20 09:25 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Leaning toward the ISM - more info and pics to follow in the coming weeks. This won’t be a short process but it should result in an awesome gun safe.
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#1683469 - 10/14/20 07:42 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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It’s going on a slab with a forklift. Whenever I move I plan to just rent a forklift for the day and use my car trailer. I’m still in the process of working out delivery but I’ll keep you cool cats updated on the progress (with lots of pics)
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#1684862 - 10/19/20 12:33 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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ISM deposit has been placed - stay tuned for delivery day!
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#1686999 - 10/26/20 12:15 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1688075 - 10/29/20 07:08 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Well it has finally arrived! Rick from the Safe and Vault Shop in Manchester, NH was a pleasure to work with. He picked up the safe from NOVA, refurbished it in NH and delivered it to me in NY. Heck of a guy and a straight shooter. Anyway, here’s some pics of the delivery. I’ll keep you guys along for the whole process of the conversion. Step 1 will be to drill the 1/4” hole for electrical access to the safe interior. More to come on that.... enjoy the pics!
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#1688079 - 10/29/20 07:11 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Edited by RUGGIERO (10/29/20 07:13 PM)
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#1688080 - 10/29/20 07:11 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1688081 - 10/29/20 07:12 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1688147 - 10/30/20 12:00 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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bustedknee
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For some reason I was expecting a much larger safe...
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#1688189 - 10/30/20 08:44 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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imaduckin
Gun fool
Registered: 11/12/10
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Loc: moved to SC
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For some reason I was expecting a much larger safe... me too, i figured it was a walkin, that aint no bigger than mine just beefier
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#1688340 - 10/30/20 07:05 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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Execprotect
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For some reason I was expecting a much larger safe... My self included. I was thinking walk in bank vault. Still a solid safe.
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#1689111 - 11/02/20 11:10 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1689566 - 11/03/20 06:37 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Interior pics coming this weekend (hopefully). Should I go beige or grey?
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#1689862 - 11/04/20 07:58 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Well with the overwhelming response in favor of grey (*sarcasm*), I’ve decided on a light grey interior. Installation and pics to follow this weekend
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#1691070 - 11/08/20 08:56 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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bustedknee
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Loc: Southwest Va
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I'm waiting for the pics of what goes in this safe....
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"I am old, sick, and tired of living. If you feel the need to mess with me, go right ahead." My Uncle, with his hand on his pistol (in his pocket), talking to a troublemaker.
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#1691524 - 11/10/20 09:49 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1691526 - 11/10/20 10:22 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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bustedknee
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Loc: Southwest Va
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The safe contents (for the most part) won’t be posted online What? Even Pelossi showed us the high-priced ice cream that she keeps in her expensive fridge. Not one Merkel or Weatherby?
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"I am old, sick, and tired of living. If you feel the need to mess with me, go right ahead." My Uncle, with his hand on his pistol (in his pocket), talking to a troublemaker.
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#1691656 - 11/10/20 05:06 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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Verylargeboots
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Registered: 10/10/16
Posts: 728
Loc: VA
City or County: Lynchburg
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What is the little pin thing?
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#1691680 - 11/10/20 06:02 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Maybe I’ll post a few teasers aka pics of tugboat shirtless
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#1691681 - 11/10/20 06:03 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Boots - the pin needs to be depressed to lock the bolts. So it keeps the bolts from going outward when the door is open. Unless I push the pin and roll the bolts The bolts you see on the pin side of the door are fixed
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#1691794 - 11/11/20 03:14 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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Verylargeboots
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That makes sense and is very cool, thank you for the clarification!
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Much like anonymous sex, internet based gun transactions are mildly risky, but almost always worth it.
I'm not a surgeon, why? What's a little sepsis between friends?
Everyone takes a beating sometimes
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#1692101 - 11/11/20 09:25 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1692102 - 11/11/20 09:26 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1695891 - 11/23/20 07:58 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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#1695952 - 11/23/20 10:29 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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bustedknee
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Rods rather than racks?
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#1696089 - 11/24/20 11:08 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Definitely a lot easier for me to make magnetic rods instead of racks. Plus it holds more rifles without taking up room for racks
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#1696253 - 11/24/20 06:32 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Just ordered some 1/4” diameter polycarbonate rod for the 6.5mm and up calibers. That should stop the bending you see in the last pic. The current diameter will stay for the taller rifles and the .22 caliber rifles (taller rifles don’t bend the rod since more is in the barrel - peep the Swedish Ljungman in the pics above)
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#1702953 - 12/12/20 09:38 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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The 1/4” rod worked much better for the larger (6.5mm+) caliber rifles. Pics to come. Any interest in other details on the safe? If not, I think I’m almost done on this thread.
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#1787122 - 07/22/21 06:48 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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This safe is for sale - go check the accessories section!!
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#2038433 - 08/17/23 09:03 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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Safe sold - $3500 but it was a fun project. Certainly not a money maker
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#2040681 - 08/24/23 10:23 AM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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GE_Minigun
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Registered: 12/22/15
Posts: 381
Loc: Virginia, USA
City or County: Winchester
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Not a safe I'd want to use to hold guns or anything that rusts. Buddy did a similar project 10 or so years ago. He was constantly fighting rust on his guns, had a HUGE Goldenrod about twice the size as it needed to be, with no luck...slowed it down, but didn't stop it. Come to find out safes made for document protection are designed to give off water vapor to protect the contents as much as possible during a fire...the Goldenrod, while doing it's jobs was actually activation the "protection". He ended up selling it to a buddy with full disclosure of what not to keep in it. Just a heads up if you go that route again...
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#2089483 - 01/27/24 11:05 PM
Re: Gun Safe Conversion
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RUGGIERO
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@GE_Minigun I disagree. I’ve had nothing but compliments from my safe conversions and actually noticed that with the seals I add, they discourage humidity more than store brand safes.
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