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#1680998 - 10/07/20 12:31 PM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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Bullet41
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Wow, just wow. This is like bump stocks and/or pistol braces all over again. One would wonder what is to be done with all the home built smaller than the "Honey Badger" type pistols. Also, what about the Sig made short barreled pistols that have proprietary braces?
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#1681061 - 10/07/20 03:44 PM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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jr45
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Good grief! I’m trying to understand this...So, if you own one of these (which this decision could affect other AR pistols owners), you need to dissemble it and send the piece(s) to someone else for control? Then submit a form 1 (fees?), wait months for ATF to approve it as a SBR? As of right now, owners of these pistols can be facing 10yrs in prison and a $10k fine?
Exert from Q LLC.
Complete one of the following: Remove the barreled upper receiver from the lower receiver and dedicate it as a replacement for another AR-style pistol or registered short-barreled rifle; or If you do not possess another AR-style pistol or registered short-barreled rifle, remove the barreled upper receiver from the lower receiver and temporarily transfer it out of your possession by, for example, transferring it to the dominion and control of another individual; and Once the previous step is completed, you may file an ATF Form 1 to register the lower receiver as a short-barreled rifle. Upon Form 1 approval, the firearm may be reassembled. Failure to complete option a or option b could result in prosecution and is subject to a $10,000.00 fine and up to 10 years imprisonment.
If you are concerned with this situation – as Q is – we urge you to contact the Department of Justice (ATF’s parent agency) by using the below OneClickPolitics link.
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#1682375 - 10/11/20 05:50 PM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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#1683019 - 10/13/20 02:36 PM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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[/quote] Found this All of the documents seem to benefit from professional-level skills in writing, layout, and design.’ An organization of radical left-wing activists has posted an online guide to “disruption” that outlines a plan to shut down the country and force President Donald Trump from power in the event that the 2020 election is too close to call. “ Be ready to block a highway (or all the highways in your town), shut down a port, occupy your state capitol, do whatever it takes! We hope to be able to offer trainings and support to groups outside DC that share our principles. “ Great just Great https://www.shutdowndc.org/principleshttps://www.shutdowndc.org/election2020 https://www.disruption-project.org/abouthttps://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/...ction-is-close/ [/quote] IMO this needs to be its own thread so more folks will see it.
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#1687774 - 10/28/20 09:36 PM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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Colonfree
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I have no idea what you read, but nowhere in that link is SBR mentioned.
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#1687887 - 10/29/20 09:45 AM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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jr45
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I have no idea what you read, but nowhere in that link is SBR mentioned. Re-read the article in the link. The exert below should give you an idea that ATF could classify AR pistols as unregistered NFA weapons(can you say SBR?). Under ATF’s new interpretation of the handgun definition, millions of AR-15 style pistols could be considered “too large, or too heavy” to fall within ATF’s new interpretation, thereby making them unregistered NFA weapons, and subjecting manufacturers and gun owners to criminal prosecution.
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#1687888 - 10/29/20 09:51 AM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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Colonfree
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I read the article, clearly you didn’t, or your comprehension is just terrible. Nowhere in that article is there a mention of an SBR. All I see in most of your posts is misinformation and fear mongering.
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#1687920 - 10/29/20 11:34 AM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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jr45
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From the article in question. Under ATF’s new interpretation of the handgun definition, millions of AR-15 style pistols could be considered “too large, or too heavy” to fall within ATF’s new interpretation, thereby making them unregistered NFA weapons, and subjecting manufacturers and gun owners to criminal prosecution. Let's see...would the new classification be a machine gun? Nope. How about a destructive device? Nope. A rifle? wishful thinking. What would be the most logical or likely classification? SBR Misinformation and fearmongering? The folks here can take a look at our activities to determine who posts misinformation or tries to steer threads. ColonfreeJR45 Here are some additional articles that discusses ATF's intent (hint, as with the other article I posted, it's about reclassification AR pistols as SBRs). 60-Day Suspension of Honey Badger Decision ATF) recategorized a popular Q, LLC-manu...led Rifle (SBR) ATF’s Secret Brace Ban Congressman Matt Gaetz Demands ATF Stop Pistol Brace Restriction Plan
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#1687922 - 10/29/20 11:36 AM
Re: ATF Rules Honey Badger Pistol Is A SBR And Violates NFA
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Colonfree
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AOW. that’s what the article says. Thanks for linking my stuff creeper. I don’t see how it’s relevant, but I’m sure there’s a ton of folks that care about my history, but are unable to navigate the site as deftly as someone like you. “so we will be facing turning them in at gun point and prison” is the fear mongering I was typing of.
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