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#866294 - 03/03/15 04:13 PM clarity please!
SHTFGunMan Offline
Nerf Herder

Registered: 01/14/13
Posts: 106
Loc: Roanoke, VA
City or County: Roanoke
I am a va resident selling a bolt action rifle. A "active duty military stationed in dc proper" wants to drive to me and buy my rifle. Would this be a legal private sale for me? Drivers license is from Florida but has registration and utility bills from NOVA.
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

#866364 - 03/03/15 06:12 PM Re: clarity please! [Re: SHTFGunMan]
vthokie67 Offline
Single barrel

Registered: 11/13/13
Posts: 25
Loc: Brandy Station (Culpeper)
City or County: Brandy Station (Culpeper)
Though I completely disagree with the law, an unlicensed person may only sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his state. Though it sounds like this "hero" qualifies for dual states of residency, FL by residence and DC by station, neither of those states is VA; therefore, a transfer is only allowed through a licensed person. I'm pretty sure this is the case.

On this note, you may find this article interesting.

#866520 - 03/03/15 11:20 PM Re: clarity please! [Re: SHTFGunMan]
SHTFGunMan Offline
Nerf Herder

Registered: 01/14/13
Posts: 106
Loc: Roanoke, VA
City or County: Roanoke
Indeed. Not worth my ***PLAY NICE***

When I mentioned the FFL was required, my gun was suddenly too expensive.

Also worth noting, this person has 2 verified transactions and 0 posts, a bit discerning.
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

#867519 - 03/05/15 09:35 PM Re: clarity please! [Re: SHTFGunMan]
num1fordfan Offline

Registered: 09/03/09
Posts: 9415
Loc: prince george , va 23875
City or County: PRINCE GEORGE
if his orders place him at a virginia station then he would be gtg

#867540 - 03/05/15 10:22 PM Re: clarity please! [Re: SHTFGunMan]
rromeo Offline
Full Auto

Registered: 07/06/10
Posts: 1477
Loc: Chesapeake Bay
City or County: Eastern Shore
I may be wrong. I can't find it, but I thought they passed a law that if your duty station is DC and you live in Virginia, then you're a Virginia resident.
Never initiate force against another. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

#893171 - 05/03/15 12:40 AM Re: clarity please! [Re: SHTFGunMan]
Top_Prop Offline
Single barrel

Registered: 04/01/15
Posts: 27
Loc: Suffolk - Virginia
City or County: Suffolk
I'm In the military. Military are residents of the state they reside in and the state they vote in... Ie I'm born in Michigan but when I got stationed in Florida I turned in my Michigan Driver's license and registered to vote in Florida. I have a Florida drivers license and pay state income tax to Florida (which is zero). So legally I'm a Florida resident. When I moved to Virginia I got a Virginia address on my Florida drivers license and even put Virginia plates on one of my three cars. I get Virginia resident status and full rights of any Virginian... except I don't vote here nor am I required to pay income tax to Virginia. I do pay the car taxes and fees on my Virginia Tagged vehicle.

Also, if someone has orders to one state and reside in a bordering state they have full residency rights in the state they -live in- and some residency rights in the state they have orders to. For instance, a friend of mine lives just over the border in NC... he buys his guns from NC FFL holders. But he gets Virginia resident hunting licenses and hunts the military bases here with me. The point is he lives in NC, but his orders are to Virginia so he has rights in both states, but buys his guns in the state he lives in.

So if anyone has a military ID, orders to VA or a neighboring state, and proof of Virginia residency (any -one- of the following: any state drivers license with VA address, utility bill in there name with a Virginia address, a car registration with VA address, VA voters registration, etc), you can sell them guns just like you would any VA resident.

I've purchased multiple firearms and a silencer while here just with my Military ID, copy of my orders, and my Florida drivers license with my VA address. This also applies to the spouse of a military person. IE my wife can buy guns here with a copy of my orders, her dependent ID, and Florida drivers license with our VA address. This is a summary and generalization of federal law by the way.

Edited by Top_Prop (07/22/15 09:50 PM)

#918505 - 07/03/15 07:57 PM Re: clarity please! [Re: SHTFGunMan]
HeavyAssault Offline
Double barrel

Registered: 10/23/11
Posts: 69
Loc: VA
City or County: King William
Last I knew VA private gun sales were private.

#918872 - 07/04/15 06:51 PM Re: clarity please! [Re: SHTFGunMan]
Agent19 Offline
2A 4 All

Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 3116
Loc: Greene
City or County: Greene Co.
Please read section B.
Though it states "Dealer" the same proof would apply for private sales

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