Not looking to the UN to do any security work for us .. simply stating that BEFORE starting the US' vetting system, a refugee applicant must first apply to and be approved for that status through the UNHCR.Laser, Lue - the video below will start to give you a little bit of information about what I mean by "most secure," and how the data is verified and cross-checked ..
Ten minutes ... It looks like you're back peddling while still maintaining your original intent to me. Below is just a reminder of what you actually said, which certainly looks like you're supporting sacrificing United States national security by putting it into the hands of the United Nations to me.
... Just so we're clear ... you know that the refugee process is like, the MOST secure way to enter the country, yes?
Takes on average 18 - 24 months...
Potential refugees are vetting by the UNHCR, then that list is sent to our State / Homeland groups for further vetting and paring down..
You sound like everything that is wrong with the United States today. This country has become a shell of its former self and you're taking up hollow space. Unfortunately, you're not alone in that shell. The majority of the shell is occupied by air-heads just like you. There is always safety and comfort in numbers and behind you stands a majority of the country. So I have no doubt you're very comfortable in what amounts to selling this country out to be politically correct.
Citing the Boston marathon bombing as an example of refugees committing heinous acts / we shouldn't let them in because terrorists! is silly .. The Tsarnaev's emigrated in 2002, Dzhokhar is a United States' Citizen, and Tamerlan had Permanent Resident Status ..
Here's the thing about working off your back foot, your momentum is in reverse and you're handicapped in putting up both a good offense and defensive. As exemplified by your rebuttals in this thread which are long on wind and short on common sense. You do realize the Tsarnaev brothers share the same religion as a majority of these refugee's right?
And that the Boston Marathon bombing, attributed to these two young men, represent one of many terrorists attacks carried out by Islamic extremists in the United States. Which is the crux of this entire issue, allowing extremists into the United States who pose potential threats to national security. Try to keep up Beaver.
Using the "one bad grape in the bunch" argument is silly too - how many travelers come here as tourists each year? OMG, what if one is a bad grape - we should shut the border entirely!
OK, so what's a life worth?
Apparently one or several American lives is not worth very much to you. Because you're willing to sacrifice national security and along with it the safety of the entire country in order to maintain a politically correct ideological stance. All it takes is one bad apple to ruin an entire batch, but some people just don't understand the difference between apple cider and vinegar.
What parts cost too much? Are you going off of actual numbers, or is this again one of those "I heard it on facebook that every refugee gets free housing and a WIC card!"
It doesn't sound like you've thought this out very thorougly to me. Although I am well aware it took days for you to respond, likely building up the courage to defend your Commie ideology its clear you're unable to see the forest for the tree's. If one was to put faith in your own thought process about the vetting these refugee's go through, by man hours alone you're talking a huge amount of money paying people to handle the interviewing, background checks and what is likely a mountain of paper work. And that is not getting into the
stipends, plane tickets and
welfare these refugee's
apply for once they
reach the shore.
Finally, shame to you for turning away an entire group of people fleeing murder and persecution because of "potential" threats to our security. This is the United States of America ..
Fancy that, you're using the "this is the United States of America" stance while fully supporting the undermining of the entire country. How ironic you would support putting national security at risk along with American lives and justify it by attempting to remind us of who we are. Its ideology just like yours that will be the downfall of this country and I do not believe you have one patriotic bone in your body. In fact, one could easily make the case you support treasonous acts. Which would make you a traitor.
And since immigration is a federal issue, can this "coalition of governors" really restrict the interstate movement of refugees that have been lawfully admitted this country?
Unfortunately, we are dealing with a very serious subject. One only needs to examine the history of the American Civil War to see where the debate of states rights can lead. And just in recent times we've had many national and social debates concerning numerous subjects which fall under the states rights vs. federal government oversight debate. And I would be willing to bet a number of related issues will continue to pop up until some states throw their hands up and seriously consider secession. Many have secessionists movements in place already.
Obama to States: You Don't Have the Power to Stop Refugee's Obamacare, the Confederate flag controversy, same sex marriage and even Operation Jade Helm "coincidentally" listed as occurring in states that just happen to have secessionists movements a foot just off the top of my head. This is all being purposefully forced upon the American people for a reason. Division. A pillar of Communist based ideology. The class struggle, pitting the proletariat vs bourgeois. The have's vs. the have nots.
Precedent was set long ago over federal over reach versus states rights. For those of you like Shotz who will side with the government no matter what, understand what you're supporting is trashing the old America in favor of the new. And new means different, different means not the same. And if you're supporting turning this country into something else, you're no patriot to put it very shortly. Believe me, I could expand.
When you have a nation divided, particularly when the majority are influenced by the mainstream media and popular culture to take anti-American stances in favor of politically correct thought you have a powder keg kind of situation. It has been my position for sometime now this is all originating by purposeful design, not the result of random events which it appears to be at first glance. There are very intelligent people who have a plan in mind and we're seeing it executed in real time. Look no further than the United Nations and world leaders across the globe to see where it all leads back too.
Take a good look at DHS puppet Shotz and his echoing of who the real terrorists are in the United States and ask yourself why would white, Christian Americans be considered potential domestic terrorists? I think the answer is obvious. If the plan is to fundamentally change the United States and other countries, you start by demonizing those who would oppose that change pre-emptively in order to stiffle support. To understand where the anti-white, anti-christian, anti-American rhetoric is coming from look no further as to why those individuals would be inclined to stand up and say no more.
For these reasons and more I believe this is a very serious topic, and unfortunately I think real Americans are the minority. If you possess an anti-politically correct stance, you've already been pre-emptively labeled a domestic terrorist. Imagine how the mainstream media would portray genuine Americans who have the countries true best interest in mind by oppossing this new world order we're seeing unfold in front of us? By those who are taking stances which go against the popular social direction supported by the majority of Americans who are influenced by the media?
You have to look no further than the propaganda about the Confederate States of America to see what it looks like to be on the losing end of states rights disputes. And by the might of the United States military alone, lead by the same government in question you're talking about nearly insurmountable odds. Ive said it before, but if you're with the minority you're the enemy. The majority have been drinking the Kool-Aid for so long that those who can see past their noses are already on the losing end of the debate before it even starts.
Your options are pretty limited. Either drink the Kool-Aid and sell out your country and fellow country men or be marginalized. Its easy to go along with the majority, the safe direction. But its harder to swim upstream against the current. And this time I think its going to be much harder than most realize. Serious business people, are you an American or are you sheep?
