HB961 passed
Posted by: Swinger
HB961 passed - 02/07/20 10:42 AM
This is the bill that essentially bans EVERYTHING semi auto, regardless of mag capacity. There's no reason why all this garbage won't continue to pass muster until blackface signs them all into law.
Posted by: knothead
Re: HB961 passed - 02/07/20 02:41 PM
I hope people wake up. I hope Republicans and those who do not vote realize that the Democrats are going for everything. We are watching the total transformation of Virginia and it is happening quickly!
Posted by: chank3
Re: HB961 passed - 02/07/20 03:08 PM
I heard the room was at capacity with orange stickers. When passed a large outcry ensued, the committee members had the State Police force everyone out under threat of arrest for trespassing. The rest of the committee items were done in an empty chamber, basically in secret.
Posted by: IrishIII
Re: HB961 passed - 02/07/20 03:56 PM
Tyranny.
Posted by: CARRYAGLOCK
Re: HB961 passed - 02/07/20 06:06 PM
Tyranny!
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/07/20 06:09 PM
Video of us gun owners being kicked out...things are only going to get worse.
Tyranny action
Posted by: Newgunguy
Re: HB961 passed - 02/07/20 06:13 PM
Yep and look and see who is enforcing this stuff, this states, this nations NAZI PIGS that will follow orders to oppress and victimize the citizens!
Posted by: Swinger
Re: HB961 passed - 02/08/20 05:14 AM
ok, hold on. According to the lawyer guy Anderson, who's on our side 100%, posted a video explaining the 'substitutions' to 961.
As it passed on friday, 961 is essentially a magazine ban....NOT an outright weapon ban. As to the reason why they changed it....who knows. And it can easily change again.
As it's worded right now, mags greater than 12 are banned. That's essentially it. Any rifle or pistol purchased before July 1 2020 'can be kept', with NO registration. There seems to be NO wording of 'a pistol capable of accepting a mag greater than', so the ban on everything semi-auto is NOT in 961 anymore. It also bans the sale and transfer of ARs after July 1.
Since they changed, it it's NOT as bad as it was. But they can easily change it again.
What we need to do is get on the 3 demonrats who have the biggest chance of flipping in the senate. That way we can have the majority and kill this bill in the senate.
Posted by: LaserJock
Re: HB961 passed - 02/08/20 07:18 AM
Video of us gun owners being kicked out...things are only going to get worse.
Tyranny action I'll raise you 1
Could almost make out the names and badge numbers . . .
https://www.richmond.com/video/news/poli...7319cef36c.html
Posted by: vx tech
Re: HB961 passed - 02/08/20 07:30 AM
i read it as, you can keep assault rifle till july 2020- Then you must pay $50.00 to get a permit with state (register) to keep it after january 2021- if you don't register - you are not conforming-Also semi auto center fire ammunition pistols are mag limited to 12 rounds- it states that farther down in bill- please correct if i read it wrong,
Posted by: fishtanker
Re: HB961 passed - 02/08/20 07:53 AM
They passed a last minute substitute version yesterday that differs on those points. It raised a few new questions in my mind though.
I believe you won’t have to register, but you won’t be able to buy or sell anymore. You can transfer to immediate family or out of state. Mag capacity goes to 12. Suppressors are what I’m wondering about, not banned but if I buy one tomorrow does that count as the sale, or when the stamp is approved? I’d hate to buy one and have it sit in NFA jail forever because my stamp wasn’t approved before July of this year.
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/08/20 10:47 AM
No matter how you read it, there is NO positive spin on this bill...it's all bad. It obvious that these delegates do not care or want to hear what their constituents have to say, just only they pull the party line and getting more/paying back campaign cash from Bloomberg.
Posted by: arcsound
Re: HB961 passed - 02/08/20 11:44 PM
If 2A supporters can somehow flip VA back, and kick out these bully Democrats, is this simply a matter of passing a new law that nullifies or reverses this idiocy? I'm not naive, I know with the gerrymandering going on, and the change in demographics in VA, it will be difficult to retake all three; House, Senate and Governor, but it is something to work for.
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/09/20 08:41 AM
There is bill that just made through Virginia’s Senate’s Finance and Appropriations Committee that allows several hundred thousands illegals in VA to obtain driver’s licenses. Currently, legal residency/status is required to obtain a DL but that requirement will go away. Add this to the upcoming changes to redistricting, and huge out is state money, we will have major problems voting them out of office in very short order and they know this.
Posted by: arcsound
Re: HB961 passed - 02/09/20 10:09 AM
Well, as perfidious as giving illegals drivers licenses (!), it does not mean they can vote, too. Not yet....
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/09/20 10:37 AM
What is to stop them? Only thing stopping more of them is not having a VA driver’s license/ID. Currently there a few thousand illegals/non-citizens registered to vote in VA, you will now have a flood if this bill passes (has a good chance of passing and see what happened in NY). Considering some seats were decided by less than a 1k votes, what do you think our future holds when the majority of them vote Democratic that want to destroy all of our rights? Why do you think the newly elected Dems are pushing this? Check out the articles below.
Washington Times Media Matters Center for Immigration Washington Examiner Investors Business Daily Fox5 DC
Posted by: Swinger
Re: HB961 passed - 02/09/20 04:38 PM
Well, as perfidious as giving illegals drivers licenses (!), it does not mean they can vote, too. Not yet....
as soon as these laws pass, it does mean they'll be voting. Take a look at what they're doing:
1. repeal ALL voter ID laws
2. give illegal immigrants licenses
3. make getting a license automatic voter registration
4. nothing stopping manuel and yuan and paco who just jumped the fence from getting a real state issued DL, automatically registering them to vote, and of course voting demonrat, as they are the party to give them free stuff.
Posted by: glh0903
Re: HB961 passed - 02/09/20 04:41 PM
You forgot to mention Muhammad. The Islamic diversity has brought great things in Dearborn, MI.
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/09/20 07:12 PM
Where they are from is irrelevant. They just strongly lean voting for/support the Dems whom, for some reason, want to destroy our rights (not just the 2nd amendment). This will be a much, much, bigger issue if the proposed DL bill becomes law. We are facing a lot of battles on different fronts.
As for HB961, I assume we try to stop it on the house floor then the senate. Please contact your house delegate ASAP! If your delegate was one of those who voted for this monster, let them know you will do everything you can to ensure they lose their seat.
From VCDL
HB 961, Delegate Mark Levine's "assault weapon," higher-capacity magazine, and suppressor ban cleared the House Public Safety committee by a 12 to 9 party line vote. The bill that passed was a substitute that made a few insignificant changes to the original bill. HB 961 no longer requires registration for current owners to keep their "assault weapon" (no new "assault weapons" can be purchased) and it raises the legal capacity-limit for magazines from 10 rounds to 12 rounds.
Bad votes are In red (YEAS):
YEAS--Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Simonds, Jenkins--12.
It pisses me off that 'illegals' can vote in CA and likely here and goodness knows where else with no consequence, yet I, as a green card holder, tax payer in the US for 4 years, can't register to vote as I'd be immediately deported, losing everything I own, worked for and hold dear. I've lived through 2 gun confiscations in England and now face it here. I'd vote every Democrat out of office but I can't. Illegals want to vote them in and CAN!
Posted by: will
Re: HB961 passed - 02/10/20 08:07 PM
Pisses me off too!
Also, If passed, how will we citizens perform a background check ?
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/10/20 09:53 PM
Are you taking about the standard of ID verification of FTF sales or having it done through NICS?
Posted by: Swinger
Re: HB961 passed - 02/11/20 08:18 AM
It means EVERYTHING will have to go through NICS, thereby creating a defacto registration
Posted by: FordBoy
Re: HB961 passed - 02/11/20 03:27 PM
These are the Senators we need to focus on next
Deeds
GA: 804-698-7525
District: 434-296-5491
district25@senate.virginia.gov
Lewis
GA: 804-698-7506
District: 757-787-1094
district06@senate.virginia.gov
Petersen
GA: 804-698-7534
District: 703-349-3361
district34@senate.virginia.gov
Edwards
GA: 804-698-7521
District: 540-985-8690
district21@senate.virginia.gov
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/11/20 07:13 PM
Already emailed them, will cal next. Everyone, please contact these Senators.
Posted by: knothead
Re: HB961 passed - 02/12/20 11:13 AM
I have also written my representative and others. They have no intention to do anything. In fact, The Virginia Gun Trader will be in big trouble very soon. I know this site has been seeking extra money to support its efforts, but I think the democrats will go all in to shut this down. Keep pushing everyone to vote this November and the next election and the next.
Posted by: nvcdl
Re: HB961 passed - 02/12/20 03:09 PM
Need to call these swing senators daily.
If you don't live in their districts you can tell them you wish to keep your address private for obvious reasons.
Posted by: 20vision20
Re: HB961 passed - 02/12/20 10:45 PM
Ban stupid people!
Bonhoeffer was known for his staunch resistance to Nazi dictatorship, including vocal opposition to Hitler's euthanasia program and genocidal persecution of the Jews. He was arrested in April 1943 by the Gestapo and imprisoned for one and a half years. Later, he was transferred to Flossenbürg concentration camp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flossenb%C3%BCrg_concentration_camp
After being accused of being associated with the July 20 plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler, he was quickly tried, along with other accused plotters, including former members of the German Military Intelligence Office, and hanged on 9 April 1945.
Gallery of 20th Century Martyrs at Westminster Abbey. From left, Mother Elizabeth of Russia, Martin Luther King Jr., Óscar Romero and Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
Posted by: CARRYAGLOCK
Re: HB961 passed - 02/15/20 02:13 PM
When does the Senate vote on 961? I was under the impression it was yesterday, Friday 2/14.
Thanks gents
Posted by: jr45
Re: HB961 passed - 02/15/20 02:23 PM
From VCDL:
Turnout needed! Monday, February 17, at 8 am, the Senate Judiciary committee is going to hear HB 961, Delegate Mark Levine's "assault weapon"/higher-capacity magazine/suppressor/ bump stock ban!
This is a key opportunity to defeat HB 961 and there is a good chance we can do so!
I suggest getting there early, as we will hopefully flood the room and beyond.
After going through the metal detectors, continue straight ahead and go through the glass doors. Make an immediate right, walk down the hall, and make another immediate right to get to Senate Committee Room A.
Here's what the current version of HB 961 does:
Makes possession of a large number of semi-automatic guns, classified as an "assault weapon" by this bill, a felony. This includes many popular rifles, handguns, and shotguns! You can keep any "assault weapons" you currently have, but you can't buy any more. The wording is so poor that you probably won't be able to even fix a broken "assault weapon," as each part is classified as an "assault weapon"! Gun dealers in Virginia won't be able to sell an "assault weapon" or any parts for one to anybody, include to gun owners in other states. This will do severe financial harm to Virginia gun dealers.
Bans magazines that hold more than 12 rounds of ammunition. There is NO grandfathering! Possession of such a magazine (keeping it at home only) after January 1, 2021 will be a Class 1 misdemeanor. However, transporting such a magazine is a felony!
Bans suppressors, making possession of one a felony. You can keep any suppressors you currently have, but you cannot purchase any more and you won't be able to fix them if they break.
Bans bump stocks. Any that you have must be destroyed by January 1, 2021. Possession of one after that date is a felony.
This bill is also up for consideration by the committee:
H.B. 600
Patron: Hope
Family day homes; storage of firearms. Requires that during the hours of operation of a family day home, all firearms be stored unloaded in a locked container, compartment, or cabinet and that ammunition be stored in a separate locked container, compartment, or cabinet.
Posted by: CARRYAGLOCK
Re: HB961 passed - 02/15/20 02:56 PM
Thanks brother I will pass this on!
Posted by: Dadcpu
Re: HB961 passed - 02/17/20 09:45 AM
Well it was postponed for a year today, not a win but relieves some of the immediate pressures anyway.
Posted by: FordBoy
Re: HB961 passed - 02/17/20 09:54 AM
Stay engaged. We need to be organized and stand strong. Virginia has had a wake up call. Let's hold the line.
Posted by: CARRYAGLOCK
Re: HB961 passed - 02/17/20 10:12 AM
I hear HB961 has been put off for vote until 2021! I haven't confirmed this but I was told by a reliable source to me.
Posted by: CARRYAGLOCK
Re: Hold The Line! - 02/17/20 10:20 AM
Stay engaged. We need to be organized and stand strong. Virginia has had a wake up call. Let's hold the line.
We got a reprieve. For the moment anyway. Let's hold the line, organize more and more, and build our political fighting power over the next several months and really fight this BS!
If just 1 thousand of us call and the list of opposing and swing representatives just 1 day of the week. I think that would definitely show them gun owners votes will be lost and they dont stand to be re-elected, which is what they really care about or they wouldn't be a politician.
Posted by: jr45
Re: Hold The Line! - 02/17/20 10:28 AM
Yep, postponed for a year! The bad: the one handgun a month, universal background checks, red flag, and locality bills still active. In addition, with the upcoming redistricting, and huge changes to voting laws under bills SB34 and HB19, we may not have as much luck next year. I know I sound pessimistic, but I see many of these bills being rammed through...our fight continues now on multiple fronts.
Posted by: VaGunTrader
Re: Hold The Line! - 02/17/20 01:01 PM
Vote
Posted by: VaGunTrader
Re: Hold The Line! - 02/17/20 01:01 PM
Vote
Posted by: VaGunTrader
Re: Hold The Line! - 02/17/20 01:01 PM
Vote
Posted by: VaGunTrader
Re: Hold The Line! - 02/17/20 01:02 PM
Yes.....vote!!!!
Posted by: VaGunTrader
Re: Hold The Line! - 02/17/20 01:03 PM
No excuses.
Every election, not just the presidential.
Get to the polls and VOTE these people out!!!!