Ridiculous Background Check Fees

So I bought a shotgun last week and agreed to meet the seller at a local gun store to do the required background check per the dictator in Richmond. Do the paperwork, check is quick and easy, and since I agreed to pay for the check I get the bill. Lo and behold, comes out to 50 bloody bucks. Are you kidding? If i were buying a $200-$300 gun the fee would be a substantial chunk. And by the way, this wasn’t some AR-15 or AK, this was an over and under shotgun for clays. Ridiculous that the price was that high. Live n learn.

REASONABLE establishments are in the area of $20-30 . We are supposed to be like minded individuals enjoying our shared appreciation of firearms but as you are aware humans are greedy and generally bad . Sorry that you had to over pay for your transfer and I'm even more sorry that it is now required . We are officially oppressed ....

gander outdoor on route 3 in spotsylvania charges $15 plus $2 vsp robbery surcharge. if you are good sam member, iyiu just have to pay the robbery charge.

tell them jimmm sends you.

http://www.sonnysguns.com/ is $15 + $2

Sonny's great FFL.Highly recommend

Anything more than $15 is not reasonable which seems to be the least. I get it, they have to take time to do the "typing" and make a buck but if they are going to gouge you, they shouldn't even do them. The more FFLs get behind not doing them, this stupid stuff might go away.

I went to a place in Ashland one time (I won't bash them here (or maybe I should). They charged me $15 for a trade deal.

I went there two weeks later to do a private sale thinking, "They have decent fees". The crooks upped their fee to $50!

They've been put on my black list.

You could decline to pay right there. The only thing you owed anyone is the $2 vsp fee.

Nope. Once they take your gun and transfer it into their books, they own it until you pay the transfer fee. What they failed to mention was that they jacked up their transfer fee in a two week span and didn't bother to tell or post it. They just assume once they have your gun, you'll pay.

State law says $15. They don’t own anything. And ‘they’ lobbied for this

They are not supposed to log it until the background check is complete. That's according to the guidance from VSP. If the buyer fails the check, and the seller is still there, it gets handed back to the seller, who is still the rightful owner.

The same thing happened in California 30 years ago. The FFL association, or whatever it is called supported it, until the state put a limit on the fees. So now they complain about having to do all of the work and only make $15 or something.

dupe

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Nope.
State Law says
"The dealer may charge and retain an additional fee not to exceed $15.00 for obtaining a criminal history record information check on behalf of a seller."

The dealer can charge up to $15 to obtain the background check.
Then, they charge whatever they want for providing the service of facilitating the transfer.

That's how they are getting away with charging $30,$50,$75 for ftf transfers. The law is full of weasel words written by weasels.

Still steaming over my $53 BC fee. Was reading the Virginian Pilot tonight, which has an article warning Virginians not to forget to do BG checks on private sales. Have to think to myself, if onerous fees continue and even go up further, sho’s going to pay $50-75 for check on a $200 firearm. Have to believe there are a ton of backdated bill of sales going around too.

https://www.pilotonline.com/government/v...wcom-story.html

Just personal observation but I think va ubc has close to 100% compliance rate. Those doing it without are either doing it among friends and family, which fall under gifting, or those who never care what the sandbox rules were in the first place. Laws are written for law followers so 100% compliance rate is mot unexpected.

Unfortunately, va has state registration now as many ffls since 1 July will not submit paperwork without DL number on both top and bottom of the page. I’ll be freer when I get to move out of here.

Just get a membership at Gander Outdoors. Transfers are free for members. Plenty of others around that won't gouge and only charge the $15 fee +$2 state fee.

The clowns at New American Arms charge both the transferor and transferee. That’s some shady stuff right there.

Yeah if you can find a place that will do it for under $25 out there you are doing good. But since the state says they can only charge X dollars, they have a "Processing Fee"

Funny how they only accept "Cash" for it.

This is just going to result in people only selling to friends and saying F the state.

SSG tactical in Stafford wants $40 for the transfer plus $2 for the background...I won’t be revisiting their store anytime soon. It’s a shame, I thought about purchasing one of their rifles I had my eye on while I was there.

About a year ago, I asked Don at New River Sports in Pulaski County to order me 4 receivers from PSA. He didn't want to waste his time so he told me to order and pay for them and have them sent to New River Sports.

When the receivers arrived he put all 4 receivers on one form and completed the BG check.
He then told the cashier to charge me $30 for each receiver.
The cashier pointed out, since all four items were on one form, $120 was excessive.

(Other dealers normally charge their set fee for the first item and a lesser charge for additional items.)

He scowled at her, "$20 each for the other three!"

I paid, thanked him nicely then got the H out of there and have never been back.
If he wants to put himself out of business - It is OK with me.

. GFR llc. Is 10 bucks total for person to person

All along I suspected a lot of FFL holders suported this law.

It means a lot of money in their pockets.

What they don't realize is they are killing off their customer base.

I love that old song called ‘I Will Comply’. Goes something like this:

At first I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinking I could never live without doing everything via FFL and 4473 on my side
But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong and logging in my 4473
And I grew weaker and worrier
And I learned how to get along
And so you're back
From outer space with your atf friends
I just walked in to find you here with that sadistic look upon your face
I should have changed that stupid lock, I should have made you leave your key
If I'd known for just one second you'd be back to bother me
Go on now, go, walk out the door
Just turn around now
'Cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with 4473 and ban decrees?

Lol

I had a really excellent transaction at Riverside Pawn & Jewelry of Madison Heights. The place is near route 29 near Lynchburg. The shop is spacious and clean and the staff were very helpful and friendly. I was the seller, but the buyer only paid $15 for a shotgun and a handgun transfer. I do not know if they can hold that line forever, but check them out of you need an FFL in that area.

Gander Outdoors did a fine job with mine. If your a good Sam's member, it free.

I agree. Gander is the best. Pay the $15 one time member fee (I think if you're a Vet) and you get transfers for free. They did tell me yesterday they were going to be changing their days where you can only do transfers on certain days but not having to pay if you're in that area makes a great difference.

If I had the money I would fight that. How in the hell can you tax a constitutional right! It's time to end this and have it come out of the general budget. This tax or any tax on ammo and guns is IMHO illegal.
Who the hell ever let this go through?
The Pittman–Robertson Act took over a prëxisting 11% excise tax on firearms and ammunition. Instead of going into the U.S. Treasury as it had done in the past, the money generated by the tax is instead given to the Secretary of the Interior to distribute to the states.] The Secretary determines how much to give to each state based on a formula that takes into account both the area of the state and its number of licensed hunters.
States must fulfill certain requirements to use the money apportioned to them. None of the money from their hunting license sales may be used by anyone other than the states' own fish and game departments. Plans for what to do with the money must be submitted to and approved by the Secretary of the Interior. Acceptable options include research, surveys, management of wildlife and/or habitat, and acquisition or lease of land. Once a plan has been approved, the state must pay the full cost and is later reimbursed for up to 75% of that cost through the funds generated by the Pittman–Robertson Act. The 25% of the cost that the state must pay generally comes from its hunting license sales. If, for whatever reason, any of the federal money does not get spent, after two years that money is then reallocated to the Migratory Bird Conservation Act.

In the 1970s, amendments to the act created a 10% tax on handguns and their ammunition and accessories as well as an 11% tax on archery equipment. It was also mandated that half of the money from each of the new taxes be used to educate and train hunters by the creation and maintenance of hunter safety classes and shooting/target ranges

First Strike munitions off of Route 17 only charges $15 for any person to person, did a transfer yesterday and it went off with no problem

gander outhouse is now selectively ripping off people and charge good sam members $17 for transfer. They try to say that all $17 goes tonthr state and they are doing it for free for members. They’ll burn in hell this time around too.