YNWA

Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/11/21 12:28 PM

When you walk, through a storm
Posted by: Newgunguy

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/11/21 12:34 PM

Wow, so you are complaining about a sale that you had to someone who has a lot of good feedback, would you feel better if they were a scammer? Right now is crazy and people are panic buying or going to have for profit later. If you went through an FFL then dont worry about it because your hands are clean and that is what the liberal demotards and these shady FFL's wanted.

Charles.
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/11/21 01:06 PM

Through a storm
Posted by: jr45

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/11/21 02:00 PM

I see no difference from him purchasing from individuals or from stores. As for the the “fast talking” portion that made you feel uncomfortable, I can’t picture a negative image of it however; I was not there. With this unconstitutional UBC law, his purchases are being tracked regardless who he buys from as it intended.
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/11/21 02:16 PM

Hold your head up high
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/12/21 05:42 AM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
I would like some opinions on the following: I sold a Sig p238 to someone the other day. When I went to leave good feedback, I noticed that this individual is getting feedback almost every day and sometimes twice per day. He struck me as slightly fast talking during our deal. I do not want to infringe on someone's rights, but do I have any responsibility to report this or look into it further. We did the deal at an FFL. I do not see him selling many guns. He has a right to hoard guns if he wants to and passes background checks. The whole situation just has left me unsettled. Thanks for your opinion. -Dave



Note to self.... don't ever get multiple feedbacks here in a short time......got it.


If there's one member on here who's making a public post about worrying about who's legally purchasing things in close intervals, out of 59,493 members as of this posting, there's probably at least 30 more guys with a similar thought process. Even though UBCs are in place. Therefore, I'm from now on forgoing feedback if it's agreeable to the other party because I'd rather not get a visit from the authorities just because there's an individual who's afraid that someone is doing something within the confines of the law too often for their tastes.

Thank you Dave for keeping a vigilant eye out against tyranny
Posted by: 870Jedi

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/12/21 07:26 AM

Dave, I'm sure your post came from the best of intentions and we are living in strange/scary times so I can understand your anxiety. But if I may play VAGT member advocate, at any given time I can have half a dozen for sale posts and when I sell something gun related I typically turn around and buy something gun related. So just when you consider that situation you are going to accumulate feedback because feedback is one of the ways our members police ourselves. Nevermind the fact that we are living in strange/scary times so people are buying and selling a lot as of late.
Posted by: Algotguns

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/12/21 07:31 AM

Hmmmm Seemed suspicious, fast talker, buying too many guns BUT you sold to him anyway.If it bothered you that much you could have backed out of the deal.
Posted by: Ali

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/12/21 07:45 AM

Originally Posted By: jr45
I see no difference from him purchasing from individuals or from stores. As for the the “fast talking” portion that made you feel uncomfortable, I can’t picture a negative image of it however; I was not there. With this unconstitutional UBC law, his purchases are being tracked regardless who he buys from as it intended.


+1
Posted by: fishtanker

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/12/21 08:48 AM

He would have to have a concealed carry permit to be approved for multiple handguns in a month.
Posted by: bustedknee

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/12/21 10:00 AM

If I am following the law I can see no reason to create new rules of my own. The government is already infringing on our rights!

Many, make that many, many, years ago the feds asked me about a gun I had sold a few years earlier. I did not remember the buyer so I said, "I don't remember."
He said, "Thank you." And left.
Posted by: rromeo

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/12/21 07:40 PM

I don't know. A lot of people are buying a lot of guns and ammo right now.
Posted by: Chingon

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/13/21 12:04 PM

I don't understand how this is suspicious. If he offered you double to NOT go through an FFL...now THAT'S suspicious.
Posted by: Agent19

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/13/21 02:03 PM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
I would like some opinions on the following: I sold a Sig p238 to someone the other day. When I went to leave good feedback, I noticed that this individual is getting feedback almost every day and sometimes twice per day. He struck me as slightly fast talking during our deal. I do not want to infringe on someone's rights, but do I have any responsibility to report this or look into it further. We did the deal at an FFL. I do not see him selling many guns. He has a right to hoard guns if he wants to and passes background checks. The whole situation just has left me unsettled. Thanks for your opinion. -Dave


So you’re assuming the feed back is for buying/selling guns illegally? Could the feedback be for buying or selling guns/ammo/gear/beef jerky within the law?


As for their alleged fast talking, you weren’t uncomfortable enough to refuse the sale of your item.

Nothing to see here folks!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Execprotect

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/14/21 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
I would like some opinions on the following: I sold a Sig p238 to someone the other day. When I went to leave good feedback, I noticed that this individual is getting feedback almost every day and sometimes twice per day. He struck me as slightly fast talking during our deal. I do not want to infringe on someone's rights, but do I have any responsibility to report this or look into it further. We did the deal at an FFL. I do not see him selling many guns. He has a right to hoard guns if he wants to and passes background checks. The whole situation just has left me unsettled. Thanks for your opinion. -Dave

I think your new name Vaguntrader handle should be "NosyKaren" We need more members like the guy you are "reporting" and less like you.
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/16/21 01:16 PM

And don't be afraid of the dark.
Posted by: nvcdl

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/16/21 01:37 PM

Better ask for a Bill of Sale - in triplicate!
Posted by: Agent19

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/16/21 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
Hey, guys. I just read all the negative remarks to my genuine concern. Thank you for your feedback. Did you know I voted for Joe Biden? Discuss.



Swap spots with the member/s you had concerns about. What would you want them to do?
Imho, you assumed stuff about the person you did a deal with, yet had no knowledge of wrong doing.

Yet you aren’t enjoying members making assumptions about you.

Your concerns would have held some credibility if you had walked away from the deal you had.

Your (what would appear to be) unwarranted concerns could have gotten that member a visit from over zealous LEO. From my stand point that isn’t a good thing.
I would hate someone to put me or someone I know in that situation, especially if they committed no wrong doing.


I’d gladly sit down for lunch with ya if you’re ever on this side of the Mtn.
Just so you can see it’s not personal or mean spirited
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/16/21 04:05 PM

At the end of the storm.
Posted by: imaduckin

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/16/21 05:37 PM

what would jesus do
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/23/21 07:02 AM

Bump.

This thread is very important for folks to read. This is a clear indicator of gun owners not always being 2A friendly. This is how we ended up with UBC, too many sellers pushing BOS hard and not wanting to keep the restrictions off of us.
Posted by: Jimmm

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/23/21 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Verylargeboots
Bump.

This thread is very important for folks to read. This is a clear indicator of gun owners not always being 2A friendly. This is how we ended up with UBC, too many sellers pushing BOS hard and not wanting to keep the restrictions off of us.


You win the redneck internet for the weekend.

young soros pretends to be holocaust survivor but he forgot to mentioned that he was co-conspirator that managed to survive by not getting killed by other Jews upon their escapes. His family got rich ratting out their own just like the gent here.
Posted by: nvcdl

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/23/21 07:32 PM

Good time to remind folks that all those Bill of Sales they have can & will be used against them by the Biden Admin.
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/26/21 06:12 PM

There's a golden sky
Posted by: Bcmgunfighter

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/26/21 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
I am still enjoying all the cordial feedback. People are making assumptions about assumptions. This is rich. Let's keep the thread going for as long as possible. We've got Jesus and Biden and Soros.


Well allow me to use my own profile to make a point. I have five pages of feedback. The amount of guns that I’ve sold in almost a decade of membership here? Three. Most of my feedback is for accessories.

Can you really blame anyone reading your original post for taking the stance that they have? Your complaining about a member exercising his constitutional rights more than you happen to be comfortable with is concerning. As for the fast talking, so what? Did your firearm go through an FFL or not?

Originally Posted By: wscrst

Hey, guys. I just read all the negative remarks to my genuine concern. Thank you for your feedback. Did you know I voted for Joe Biden? Discuss.




I assume this to be a joke, but I can’t tell for certain?
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/26/21 08:39 PM

If the original poster was legitimately concerned he should have sought out legal counsel, to post a question about a topic that he believed to be a possible issue in his future would be absurdly stupid, for multiple reasons. The least of which being if there ever was a legal issue, the post can/will be brought forward as evidence that he possibly knew the sale was incorrect.

BUT!!!!! He did the deal legally and went through a FFL dealer as the new laws require.

Therefore, the logical conclusion is that he either was asking because he was curious about people's feelings towards individuals who do multiple "deals" per day, or it's a troll post.
Posted by: P3Bill

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/27/21 10:53 AM

Well, there is the possibility that the "multiple deals" did not occur on the same day as the feedback was posted. Some folks do not make an immediate feedback post, maybe slips their mind for a day or two.
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/30/21 05:23 PM

And the sweet silver song, of a lark
Posted by: imaduckin

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/30/21 06:08 PM

popcorn
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 08:41 AM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
Originally Posted By: wscrst
I would like some opinions on the following: I sold a Sig p238 to someone the other day. When I went to leave good feedback, I noticed that this individual is getting feedback almost every day and sometimes twice per day. He struck me as slightly fast talking during our deal. I do not want to infringe on someone's rights, but do I have any responsibility to report this or look into it further. We did the deal at an FFL. I do not see him selling many guns. He has a right to hoard guns if he wants to and passes background checks. The whole situation just has left me unsettled. Thanks for your opinion. -Dave


Has anyone actually read my initial post? I asked for opinions. The opinions that I requested have reassured me that the frequent activity of the member in question is not viewed by anyone else as a problem. However, these opinions have generally been presented in a very accusatory and negative way instead of simply stating one's opinion and assisting me with a situation in which I felt a little uncomfortable. I just do not understand the hate. Peace out. -DAR


Lol
Posted by: Ali

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 09:46 AM

Marcia marcia marcia!!!!!!!!
Posted by: bustedknee

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 10:05 AM

To me, your original post sounded a little like you wanted to add your own infringments to a buyer operating well within the law.

We are already over-burdened with infringements. We have had many posts on here by people that have expressed a "desire" to perform background checks and to complete paperwork on private sales...

So we are gun shy, so to speak.

Don't take it personal.

Just my opinion.
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/31/21 12:19 PM

Walk on through the wind
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
Originally Posted By: bustedknee
To me, your original post sounded a little like you wanted to add your own infringments to a buyer operating well within the law.

We are already over-burdened with infringements. We have had many posts on here by people that have expressed a "desire" to perform background checks and to complete paperwork on private sales...

So we are gun shy, so to speak.

Don't take it personal.

Just my opinion.


Nice pun. I did not want to infringe, but the interaction was different enough from previous guntrader interactions for me to ask the community for some reassurance. Unfortunately, I think that folks read what they want to read between the lines. The nastiness of people is to be expected in today's American. I will now take this in a different direction. Take the dude who just wrote "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia." I bet if we were face to face that we could just sit down and have a reasonable conversation. We might be best shooting buddies. I do not think that he would denegrate me or belittle my concern. I certainly do not think that he would sarcastically say, "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia" if we were just chatting. However, sitting behind the computer screen emboldens people and for some reason on this site and others the comments go negative instead of positive. As Kurt Vonnegut said in Slaughterhouse Five, "So it goes."


If I'm ever in Staunton I'll send you a PM to meet up with you. To tell you the exact same things I said previously.

......the unfortunate part is, I don't know where Staunton is, nor do I know why I'd be out there.


Having said all of that, you asked for OPINIONS. When you didn't like them and you didn't get the reassurance you sought out, you got all in your feelings or whatever and took it personally. Which is dumb, because you asked for OPINIONS.


But hey, dingleberries gonna dingle......


EDIT: I now know where Staunton is haha. If I'm ever in the area I'll give ya a call
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/31/21 05:11 PM

Walk on through the rain.
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
Once again, as stated in a reply, I did get the opinions I wanted and I was reassured. I just had to sift through nasty people spouting derogatory terms in order to get to these opinions. Why call me a dingle berry you douche-tard? Wow, that feels really good. I just insulted someone on the internet for no reason. I feel powerful. No one can touch me behind my computer screen. I am now a convert. I will use this new-found internet power to feel better about myself for I am the Czar of my internet world. What a bunch of idiots...and to define that, I mean you likely have IQs under 70. True mentally challenged individuals. partay


Hehehehehe, that gave me a chuckle. smile
Posted by: Bcmgunfighter

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 08:26 PM

Meanwhile, I’m over here with my popcorn waiting for a response to my question... you know... to figure out if you’re a, “Truly mentally challenged individual.” My advice is to toughen up. This is the internet.
You asked a question and you received some genuine feedback. Don’t get butthurt so easily. smile
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 01/31/21 09:21 PM

Though your dreams be tossed and blown.
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 09:22 PM


Lol
Posted by: Bcmgunfighter

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 01/31/21 09:53 PM

[quote=wscrst][/quote]
facepalm
Posted by: JORJENBOY

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 02/01/21 08:49 PM

That is killer...
I would say this Wscrst... If when you meet an individual and you do not feel comfortable in the transaction simply just walk away from it... Just state you are not comfortable and walk away from the deal... Usually your gut will tell you all you need to know about the situation. Luckily I have not had that happen to date. If, however, you follow through with the sell and the person passes the FFL and legally takes possession of the firearm/ammo I think that is the end of the transaction, outside leaving feedback. Some people buy and trade to have fun... Some do it for a hobby... Others do it for a side business... Nothing wrong with any of those choices... My guess is they might buy on here and maybe sell them through another process such as armslist or gunbroker for a markup... In any case with everything in the world going on you have to realize gun owners and 2A supports are going to be just a little defensive about such a request for opinion... My two cents... but what do I know? Everyone has an opinion these days... =)

Scott
Posted by: Jimmm

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 02/02/21 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
Very cordial response, sir. Shame on me, but in my defense, I did not see the feedback before returning home after the sale. I agree that I made an error in judgment about this situation, but I was genuinely concerned and made an inquisition. No harm has come to the member who purchased the firearm. In fact, I did not even state his username in my original post. I agree with you that it would have been terrible if a genuine firearms enthusiast was flagged by law enforcement for this situation. In the future, I will be vigilant in studying who I sell to so that I am comfortable. I think that I was more uncomfortable with my actions than with the buyers actions. Have a great day.


this explanation made things worse.

Now I want to know the race of the buyer.

It is their America and their 2A too VS. It is his America and his 2A too. Same statement but one has a holier than thou undertone in it. But I am sure you are a proud southern democrat or in a carpet business.
Posted by: bigphilly

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 02/22/21 08:56 AM

Originally Posted By: imaduckin
what would jesus do
Sell all the guns to all the people duh
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 02/25/21 12:20 PM

Walk on, Walk on
Posted by: Cash is King

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 03/06/21 10:49 AM

Originally Posted By: wscrst
I would like some opinions on the following: I sold a Sig p238 to someone the other day. When I went to leave good feedback, I noticed that this individual is getting feedback almost every day and sometimes twice per day. He struck me as slightly fast talking during our deal. I do not want to infringe on someone's rights, but do I have any responsibility to report this or look into it further. We did the deal at an FFL. I do not see him selling many guns. He has a right to hoard guns if he wants to and passes background checks. The whole situation just has left me unsettled. Thanks for your opinion. -Dave


Relax...

You have done absolutely nothing wrong.

The current environment has people becoming unsettled over completely lawful activities.

For all you know his money is coming from Bloomberg and he is buying up all the guns to melt down and turn into plowshares.

Stupid thing to do, but lawful.
Posted by: Dadcpu

Re: Suspicious VA guntrader activity - 03/08/21 11:24 AM

In the 10 years I have been a Mod here we have seen quite a few instances here of borderline criminality and are usually dealt with rather quickly. A lot of legitimate members have alerted us about them and we have dealt with them but the number is and has grown incrementally. There was a time when your word was your bond, that no longer seems to be the case with the exception of folks you know and trust. They are like rats, climb on and try to find a way to screw someone because they have no morals.
Since the new law it seems to have gotten worse, probably because everyone's bat alarm has gone off. I have basically just decided not to sell to folks I don't know which makes it bad for board honestly. I am sure some of you remember Richard (Tons of guns) who bought lots of guns and some thought the same of him BUT they didn't know his story. He inherited a sizable fortune and liked guns, nothing more to it than that. Some folks are scumbags but you have to figure that one out before you deal with them. Buy the gun not the story.
Posted by: wscrst

YNWA - 03/08/21 09:32 PM

With hope, in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never walk alone.
Posted by: Cash is King

Re: YNWA - 03/09/21 07:26 AM

Wscrst...

The very first words you typed was "Suspicious" (Suspicious VA guntrader activity).

This word was alarming too many in the community... rightfully so.

I have now bothered to read all of the discourse that followed. The discourse is valid and Boots was even quite eloquent (and sincerely impressed no jab intended).

Wscrst... you saw something and you said something and the community responded. You may have gotten shoved around a tiny bit in the community. So be it.

I ran a water line to my barn once. My neighbor contacted the county. I had not bothered to pull a permit. I had put the water line in at 20 inches, but code called for 24 inches.

I had to redo the entire job and pay a fine because my neighbor saw something and said something.

It was my water line to feed my horses from a frost-free yard hydrant.

My neighbor claimed he saw something "Suspicious".
Posted by: Agent19

Re: YNWA - 03/11/21 02:55 PM

OP, you didn’t do yourself any favors by deleting your post!
Apparently, you didn’t notice almost all your post were quoted when folks replied.
Posted by: Verylargeboots

Re: YNWA - 03/11/21 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Agent19
OP, you didn’t do yourself any favors by deleting your post!
Apparently, you didn’t notice almost all your post were quoted when folks replied.








It's his way of hanging his head in shame/tucking tail when he sees something he didn't like. Says enough about him
Posted by: Ali

Re: YNWA - 03/11/21 09:53 PM

So....any good deal on Lorcin 380s?
Posted by: wscrst

Re: YNWA - 03/28/21 09:00 AM

Dude, the moderator asked me to delete my posts. Yes, they were quoted, but there is nothing that I can do about that. Please take the rest of this up with the moderator.
Posted by: Agent19

Re: YNWA - 03/28/21 01:46 PM

Seems silly, as a Mod could just delete this thread..


Oh well, the worlds got bigger issues.
Posted by: madmanindc

Re: YNWA - 04/21/21 03:17 PM

Is it me or does this guy remind you of Dusty Dog?