Sitting behind these “keyboards” ain’t gonna do anything. We all know what’s coming! The question is are we going to do anything to stop it? 50% of gun owners don’t even know what happened

Fair point. I posted four things that we should all be doing already: contributing to VCDL, pestering the NRA-ILA, contacting your legislators, and attending the next lobby day.

Make sure your gun-owning neighbors know what is about to hit them. I know a shocking number of gun-owning people up here in NoVA that didn't even bother to vote, and have NO idea that this legislation is on the fast track. Get them mobilized, via VCDL, etc.

In my case (NoVA), my so-called "representatives" are actually the ones introducing these unconstitutional bills. They are a lost cause, but I have to think there are enough Democrat representatives in pro-gun districts that might be more tuned to the concerns of their voters. if we can get to enough Democrat fence-sitters, they may cause the legislation to be watered down in committee, if not rejected.

It seems that VCDL is more focused on the sanctuary city idea at the moment (cute idea, but it has no impact on the actual laws being passed). I'm hoping they are able to organize around getting to a handful of receptive Democrats to realize that the AWB bill goes too far. We would "just" need to swing 3 Democrat senators. And/or 11 Democrat delegates (10, if Stolle's recount succeeds).

Look at line 433 of the bill; this is essentially a repeat of the bills proposed during the special session. Possession would also be illegal.

"It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport an assault firearm. A violation... is punishable by a class 6 felony."

Assault firearm is defined by being a semi auto, and having essentially any feature under the sun.

^ exactly. Making hundreds of thousands of Virginians (or more) automatic felons if they don't destroy or dispose of their property. It's insane. What I am amazed (and dissappointed) about is how few VA Gun Trader posters seem to be concerned about this. Just a handful of us, it seems. While the gun sales thread seems to have picked up significantly over the past week (I guess people are looking to cash in/dispose already!), I don't see a lot of other message traffic about this earth-shaking legislation that is likely to be rammed through.

I guess that's how this all happened - the anti-gun community is active, organized, and has the motivation to get to the polls. The voter turnout numbers tell the story. However the pro-2A community seems ... lethargic, resigned, and I would be bold enough to say didn't bother to turn out en-masse to the polls.

So now we have a lot of catch up work to do. And I just don't sense the energy or drive out there. Please tell me I am wrong...

We not only need strong organization with VCDL but in my opinion should have the following stand with us to help educate and prevent bills such as this one from passing

Gun Owners of America
NRA
Jews for the Preservation of Gun Ownership
African American Gun Association
Second Amendment Foundation

This bill looks like something that would be in New Jersey or California. I cant believe they are going for so much at once, I figured they'd try to chip away?!?! This would be a disaster for for everyone if it passes. The lawyers would have their work cut out for them with all the increased caseloads.

Do put think this is likely to pass though ?

No you're not wrong. Anti-gunners have spend time and money silencing us in social media, in the news, and in the public forum. They take up all the airtime and that transcends into politics. The noise drowns out the pro-2A community, isolating us from the world and from each other, to the point we feel alone and ultimately resign. I couldn't tell you how many pro-2A people I meet up with in NOVA get surprised when they meet another gun owner. Gun owners didn't show up to the fight because they feel it's hopeless, because Moms-Demand-Action made them feel that way.

This is only the opening round as the governor has already proclaimed. Next is open carry to be made illegal. Then, Concealed carry will be made into a DC type requirement. Crime in Virginia is going to spike. The moments everyone thought could not happen in America are here.

Yup. Doesn't look good. But it doesn't mean we should lay down and give up. This is our home, and we best make like Virginians of the past and fight like hell to save it.

great... so does this mean firearms confiscation?

I’m not understanding the proposed ban on pistols that weights over 50oz and accepts magazines. This would not apply to most pistols...Maybe this is directed at the AR15 type pistols, UZIs, etc.?

HENRICO BOS meeting was last night, there was no formal agenda for the 2A topic but they did hear public comment on the issue.
Video here. Starts around minute 16:10
https://henrico-va.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3026

Orange County - the regular BoS meeting is Tuesday, 3 Dec.
Ya'll Orange folks show up and request ack and vote on 2A sanctuary status!

Note the Public Comment period will be held on Public School Property -



Date: 3 December, 2019
Time: 7pm, Public Comment Period
Location: Taylor Administration Complex
200 Dailey Drive, Orange Va 22960.

Any restrictions on carry, ie, the meeting is in a courthouse or school: YES! Restrictions – School Property!


.**NOTICE OF CHANGE**
15. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE HELD NO EARLIER THAN 7:30 P.M. AT THE ORANGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TAYLOR EDUCATION ADMINISTRATION COMPLEX*, 200 DAILEY DRIVE, ORANGE, VA 22960* THE POSSESSION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS OR FIREARMS ON ORANGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL PROPERTY IS NOT PERMITTED