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#1569621 - 12/10/19 06:40 PM
Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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lue-jones
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From November 15 until December 21, 1864, Union General William T. Sherman led some 60,000 soldiers on a 285-mile march from Atlanta to Savannah, Georgia. The purpose of Sherman’s March to the Sea was to frighten Georgia’s civilian population into abandoning the Confederate cause. Sherman’s soldiers did not destroy any of the towns in their path, but they stole food and livestock and burned the houses and barns of people who tried to fight back. The Yankees were “not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people,” Sherman explained; as a result, they needed to “make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war.”
Factories, farms and railroads provided Confederate troops with the things they needed, he reasoned; and if he could destroy those things, the Confederate war effort would collapse. Meanwhile, his troops could undermine Southern morale by making life so unpleasant for Georgia’s civilians that they would demand an end to the war. The Union soldiers were just as unsparing. They raided farms and plantations, stealing and slaughtering cows, chickens, turkeys, sheep and hogs and taking as much other food–especially bread and potatoes–as they could carry. Sherman’s “total war” in Georgia was brutal and destructive, but it did just what it was supposed to do: it hurt Southern morale, made it impossible for the Confederates to fight at full capacity and likely hastened the end of the war. “This Union and its Government must be sustained, at any and every cost,” explained one of Sherman’s subordinates. “To sustain it, we must war upon and destroy the organized rebel forces,–must cut off their supplies, destroy their communications…and produce among the people of Georgia a thorough conviction of the personal misery which attends war, and the utter helplessness and inability of their ‘rulers’ to protect them…If that terror and grief and even want shall help to paralyze their husbands and fathers who are fighting us…it is mercy in the end.”
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#1569628 - 12/10/19 06:56 PM
Re: Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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lue-jones
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Sherman was a believer in total war . He said that the Union military was "not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war." Sherman realized that the Confederate civilian population provided most of the supplies that Confederate forces needed to wage war against the Union. To speed the defeat of the Confederacy, Union forces needed to prevent Southern civilians from supplying their armies. The Northern military needed to wage war against both the Confederate military and Confederate civilians. Murphy’s book states that there are records of 450 rape or attempted rape cases in Union military courts (destruction of the Confederate records leaves the stats on that side a mystery). Unfortunately, because we don’t have all the records, we don’t really know. But when I uncovered several hundred cases [of rape], I think that speaks loudly because very few women would have come forward. Very few women come forward during peacetime; it’s even fewer that come forward during wartime, so we know that this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what’s being reported. In the book, I mention [a rape that occurred during] Sherman’s March, when the army was on the move. The victim did report it. But by the time the case made it to court martial, they were 100 miles away, so she could not testify. That’s what people don’t understand—it was totally against the women to even be able to report it. “[Sherman] had become a violent criminal who wished to confer victory on his country’s politics whatever it cost the enemy,” Kiaulehn added. “Never has anybody scorned noble feelings with more blasphemy.”
Sherman, one of the most successful Union generals during the American Civil War, devastated the Confederacy by leading more than 60,000 soldiers in a flanking march through Georgia and the Carolinas in 1863 and 1864. His tactics have remained controversial. Sherman’s troops lived off the land and directly targeted farms, factories and railroads — and more — as military targets. One word still resonates more deeply in the American psyche than any other in the field of Civil War study: Sherman. The name immediately conjures visions of fire and smoke, destruction and desolation; Atlanta in flames, farms laid to waste and railroad tracks mangled beyond recognition.
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#1569631 - 12/10/19 07:02 PM
Re: Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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lue-jones
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Interestingly, the term "Total War" appears to be a real thing that is taught at war colleges and military institutes across the world. I had kept noticing the term repeatedly while researching Civil War history for class and as it turns out, this was the ideological basis behind Shermans campaign. Total war is one in which the whole population and all the resources of the combatants
are committed to complete victory and thus become legitimate military targets. With few,
mostly 20th-century, exceptions, all the other wars in history have been limited, in that
they have engaged less than the entire energy of the societies involved and have
stopped short of unconditional surrender by one side. Total war can be unilateral,
bilateral, or multilateral and is characterized by an absence of rules or restraint in the
conception and execution of military action in pursuit of unlimited political objectives. It
precludes capitulation, so there is no incentive to cease fighting even when defeat is
objectively inevitable. Practically by definition, total war is or becomes ideological in
nature at an early stage, not least because the ruled need to be reassured that the
sacrifices they are called upon to make are for a worthwhile cause and not, as is
invariably the case, to increase the power of the rulers
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#1569640 - 12/10/19 07:26 PM
Re: Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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lue-jones
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Compare the Union, Shermans March to the Sea under the Total War military doctrine and that of the Confederacy and General Lee. "One of the most enduring explanations for why the Confederacy lost the Civil War asserts that the Rebels were too democratic." When Gen. Porter Alexander came to Lee before the Confederate surrender at Appomattox with the idea of conducting guerrilla warfare throughout the South, Lee rejected the suggestion in favor of unifying the country.
Mr. Robertson says Lee knew if Confederate soldiers decided to take part in guerrilla war, they would be without rations and would be forced to steal to survive. “Lee conducted war as a gentleman; he believed in what he was doing, but if he lost, then so be it,” Mr. Abell adds.
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#1569748 - 12/11/19 07:20 AM
Re: Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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lue-jones
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For those following along, the above information speaks of the intent of the federal government, ie the Union Army, to teach the people of Georgia a lesson. Their failure to yield to the Union lead to Shermans scorched earth policy, under the military doctrine of Total War, to teach the entire state of Georgia a lesson. The below threads here at Virginia Gun Trader are a testament to the number of counties in Virginia standing up to the threat of unconstitutional gun control measures in the state. 95 Counties in VA. Is yours a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Yet? Call to Action. Second Amendment Sanctuary Counties - Fight Back Against Tyranny What Virginian's need to understand is that failure to yield to state law, to state authorities, has consequences. And they can be potentially severe. This is a very serious situation, those who fail to comply with any unconstitutional gun control measures can expect a heavy handed response from authorities. I see many Virginians who act as if they've won the lottery with their counties declaring 2nd Amendment sanctuary status, the vast majority of conservatives have an unrealistic idea of what these ordinances, second amendment status counties actually mean, a false sense of security. If the substantive whole of Virginia fails to comply with Virginia state law, the state and federal government will bring the full weight of its power down upon those who fail to comply and the state of Georgia stands as an example of what happens to those who oppose the will of authority. To this day, Sherman has left a lasting legacy/curse on the United States of America. The promises of yesterday by Sherman himself are still knocking on the doorsteps of Americans today, promising to re-ignite his scorched earth policy implemented under the military doctrine of Total War over 150 years ago now. For more information: Lt. Col. NutnFancy - Virginia: A Sleeping Giant Has Awoken More Tyranny in Virginia - IraqVeteran88888
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#1569823 - 12/11/19 11:37 AM
Re: Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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Va Hunter
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[b]If the substantive whole of Virginia fails to comply with Virginia state law, the state and federal government will bring the full weight of its power down upon those who fail to comply
I can't see the feds getting involved since no federal laws will be broken, only unconstitutional laws set by the state.
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#1569828 - 12/11/19 12:02 PM
Re: Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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2A sanctuaries will only put more pressure on law enforcement, they will have to stand one way or another on new gun restrictions and how they enforce them, if anything it will make law enforcement nervous and they will be more vocal to the governor on issues
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#1570296 - 12/12/19 03:54 PM
Re: Civil War History - Shermans March to the Sea
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lue-jones
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#1575794 - 12/28/19 08:32 AM
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lue-jones
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During the war, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels contributed dozens of insightful articles for the New York Tribune and, later, for the Viennese Die Presse on political and military issues. Engels specialized on the military strategy of the Lincoln administration and that of the Confederate Jefferson Davis rebel government. Marx strongly supported the Union from the outset, saw the slaveholders confederacy as the principal enemy, and attacked those British liberals and radicals who were condemning Lincoln for not immediately advocating the abolition of slavery. In this excerpt from an 1861 article in the New York Tribune, where he is writing positively about a response from Harriet Beecher Stowe to Britain in defense of the Lincoln government, Marx makes this important critique of both honest and hypocritical anti-slavery thinking. He also made the point that many who are critical of Lincoln denounced the John Brown raid and said that a revolution of the slaves was worse for civilization than slavery. Marx also followed the progress of the Civil War closely because so many of his fellow exiled European revolutionaries fought in the ranks of the Union Army. Defeated and sent into American exile after a wave of European revolutions in 1848-49, many discovered in the struggle against slavery more hopeful strategies than any they had previously pursued. There were even avowed Communists in the Union Army fighting the Civil War was written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and is the corner of Marxist ideology. The idea of class struggle is a central concept in Marxism/Communism/Socialism, the proletariat (working class) and bourgeoisie (middle class elite). At its core, this central concept in Marxism is applied in terms of the oppressed and oppressor, good vs evil, black vs. white and its this completely narrow concept of reality that is applied in real world terms such as that of the Civil War which is quite clearly viewed through the spectre of that exact lens today in popular American culture. As the information posted above attest too, the role of Communism and in particular Karl Marx and Engels themselves in the American Civil War was much greater than the vast majority of people understand and realize today. With Marx and Engels running intellectual roughshod over the American and European peoples through their wrtings in the mainstream newspaper media, with Engels reportedly being a perveyor of Union military strategy with Marx offering unwavering support for the Union we get a glimpse of a little known part of Civil War history that deserves to be remembered. And here we are, over 150 years later, and this same ideology is still knocking at the doorsteps of Virginians. And whats worse, approximately 50% of the population supports this barbarous ideology responsible for untold suffering world wide.
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#1576010 - 12/28/19 05:20 PM
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lue-jones
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The idea of another Civil War in the United States is not just a matter of wild speculation, President Trump himself has warned of the matter. In fact, President Trumps stunning letter to Nancy Pelosi accused the Communists and their on going Coup D'etat of declaring "open war on American democracy." These Radical Socialists/Communists and their on going Operation Mockingbird propaganda machine against President Trump are no doubt forcing the countries arm into a direction sure to find its breaking point. Take note of how the Democrat/Communists domestic terrorist organization Antia labels the "Far-Right" Nazis, no doubt following in the Bourgeoisie/Prolatariet Marxist/Communist tradition of rich vs poor, black vs white, good vs evil, racist vs. enlightened world view paradigm. The idea these domestic terrorists are attempting espouse is simple, Nazis = bad and Anti-Fascists = Good. Conservatives = Bad Communism = Good Conservatives = Nazis The events in Charlottesville and how the mainstream media portrayed the event is a perfect example of the real world application of Marxist theory and Communist propaganda in action. And you can rest assured any future peaceful assembly by conservatives in the future will be subject to the same kind of propaganda to varying degree's of severity. The media will attempt to descredit conservatives with any number of labels to include alt-right, far-right, Nazis, racists, White Nationalists, fascists etc. This is straight out of the Communists Playbook and should come to nobody as a surprise when the inevitable occurs. Communism was the enemy in 1861 during the American Civil War and its the enemy today in 2019.
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