......most men,confronted by a bad situation,don't try and change the rules while they are playing the game.........but haven't met many grown men or women in the last couple of decades.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975

Well, an old Commie like you would be very happy with mail-In voting I'm sure.

The rest of us want our election to be honest and fair. If you cannot control the sanctity of the voting process, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

Commie?Geeze,showing your age a bit there,arn't you boy?

Considering that not only does his family mostly seems to vote by mail,as well as a lot of his inner circle,seems that it is bit of sour grapes.

Me,I LOVE VOTING IN PERSON.But if you haven't noticed,there is an epidemic going on.I've few elders still alive,and they like to vote as well.Will you deny them their right to vote?Even though I am classed "at risk"(age) I want to vote,preferably in person.But if it saves even one of those older than me from illness,sure,I'll vote by mail.

BTW,I am also classed as an "essential worker".Toolmakers keep the equipment running/make repair parts that makes PPE and medical equipment.

AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER D**N THING THAT IS STILL MADE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT IS NOT AN INTERNET APP.

Want us to strike?

DENY US THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

... I've never been a union member,but will respect that picket line.

dusty if you lean any farther to the left you will fall over, not sure how you cant see mail in voting will be full of fraud

Duckin,let me share a thought from back in the '70s when I raced motorcycles:

old crippled up rider to my younger self:"son,if you can turn the ton,fine.But you really know who you are when you feel gravel hitting your knee" John the Rhymer.gone but not forgotten

Hasn't voting by mail been the de facto standard for active duty military not at home, put in place by republicans since the war of northern aggression?

Absentee voting and mail-in are not the same, despite with the left would like you to believe. Kind of like how they try to convince everyone that you can order a gun online; the implication being that it comes right to your house. Factually it is correct but they omit crucial information.

^^^^

Oh, he sees it!

Was it NJ that did mail in voting and 10% were invalidated. That is a lot of either fraud attempts or disenfranchisement.

Exhibit 2. Dino Rossi is elected governor of Washington. Only the mystical appearance of ballots turned the election over on the 3rd try. What did Washington learn, don't actually leave it up to the people. Make sure that 110% of voters registered vote. Tommy Boy actually happened, the difference was the media didn't care and it wasn't funny.

I get junk mail for 4 people... looks like 5 people are voting Trump.

If anyone wants to talk abt mail in voting, they need to talk abt wiping the roles first and making everyone sign up again.

Yep, I know about Absentee voting. I spent the last 2+ decades voting absentee. I voted from North Africa, Iraq, and other middle eastern hell holes. It was a gigantic PITA, and I (and hundreds of thousands of other military members) received 2 different letters telling me that my vote had not been counted that year. (Both times during the Obama admin).

Absentee voting is a last ditch effort to allow folks to vote who have no other way. It is flawed at best, and almost always taken advantage of by the left. Now, this "mail in voting" that they have brought up recently, is NOT absentee voting. They are trying to email or snail mail a ballot to you, which you will fill out and return. None of us are stupid enough to believe you think that is a good method.

The ONLY reason the left is pushing for it is due to the ease of voter fraud and you know it.

oh and because you obviously have never read the Constitution, I'll clear it up for you.

You have no "Right to vote". There is no such thing. Never was since the founding of this country.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
― Alexander Fraser Tytler



Good thing we have NEVER BEEN A DEMOCRACY huh?

follow the Scottish school of economics,eh? You do understand that adam smith was a monarchist and wrong,don't you?

Its amazing to me, how all of the poor minorities, elderly, and other disenfranchised people are in mortal fear for their life that they cannot make it to vote, but have no problem going to Walmart, grocery stores etc. What a crock of **VOTE IN NOVEMBER**, just another liberal scheme to allow the trash to vote...
Should go back to poll tax, land ownership etc. All of you do gooders singing coom by ya really think that some piece of **VOTE IN NOVEMBER** on welfare paying 0 into the system should vote? They have NO SKIN IN THE GAME. A government run on the principle of robbing Paul to pay Peter, will soon be run by Peter....

^^^^^^^
Much the same argument used by the English landed class to rationalize the suppression of the "bog Irish Papist white trash" in Ireland.

care to try better?

I'm not 'trying' anything, its my opinion 'bud'. I care not whether you agree or disagree. Like it, dislike it, or go to hell makes no difference to me.

I agree.
Only citizens actually vested in America should be allowed to vote: Home/land owners. those who have served, citizens with a certain amount of time in public-service jobs, or pay a substantial poll tax.
When your vote is worth something your vote will count.

Hah. I love reading your posts. Finally someone who reads their history. Did you get to the point where the Irish were not white, and instead classified as mongoloid/lessers by the high thinking society?

Ooh, this makes me mad. Classifying individuals right to self-governance as a function of their economic status. Ask the french how such a system worked out when guns bring the peasantry to an equal playing field.

"Deny us the right to vote". Love it when libs attempt blackmail. Vote by mail is a recipe for fraud. This is already in evidence to anyone who reads. Another dumb Dem idea (sorry for the redundancy). lunacy.

Just love it when people that actually hope to be lead by a demagouge take a shot at freedom.Most of the responses seem to be from people that want to say"yes,daddy' when on their knees.

What has not been shown is a NEED to vote by mail.
Stores have been open, people have been at work. What is the need to vote by mail? There isn't one. What has been shown is that there is a bunch of reasons not to, both logistic and validity being the most prominent.

What I find particularly sad is the inability to debate the actual issues and address them.

On another issue I would have no problem denying the right to vote federally to people who don't pay income taxes and aren't on social security.

I've always thought the vote could be accomplished on the tax return.

I think the bigger picture is being overlooked. While I firmly believe that mail in ballots are a wonderful opportunity for the left to absolutely and completely skew the elections, this is not the biggest issue.

I believe that with a few very select exceptions, our Congressmen both on the left and right no longer have our best interests at heart and need to be booted out of there. Not with a Nazi boot or an Antifa boot, but a Patriot boot. The whole system needs to be reworked by good, honest, hardworking Americans. They for the most part no longer stand by us and stand up for us. Us being Americans as a whole, on both sides of the isle. The system has failed us and doesn't work. State's rights are no longer states rights.

No Taxation Without Representation.

Boots,you may not be able to swallow this,but from an old Red to you,bless you.

I want to see TERM LIMITS,AND THEY CAN NOT VOTE THEIR OWN RAISES AND BENIFITS!

A class of professional beuruecrats will ALWAYS vote in their own best interest.Let's see how well they do when they have to be a part of the struggle that most folks deal with daily.

What does it take to get term limits? Can it only be done by congress?

From my understanding it is up to each individual state, which is why it has never been adopted. Federal positions can be, but not those determined by individual states.

Down with the class of career politicians! Viva la resistance!

Interesting. I thought I was the only one who wanted skin in the game to be a prerequisite for voting. I agree with your parameters.

If you have more skin in the game, does your vote count more? Like if you own a home, and a vacation home, do you get two votes? How much land ownership equates to a voting right, 1 square foot? 10? an acre? Does one have to own it outright, or if you are still repaying the bank, or maybe in forclosure for defaulting on the mortgage loan, is that good enough? If the property is only titled to you, does your wife not get a vote? I am curious.

If a substantial poll tax, how much of a price do you put on the vote? If the poll tax is $1,000, would you be upset when Soros / Bloomberg pay the tax for people to vote the way they would like against the interests you hold?

panic,would not bother feeding his ego.

I've seen more people responding to this original post with anger than I expected; and they all want to be LEAD. Sure,they do lip service(double entendre intended) to the present administration.Who wouldn't in the postion they occupy? They live in fear of change and equality,feeling that they are the "
landed gentry " that we strive to rise above from the 18th century.

What are they really afraid of? I know that I will become obsolesctent,pehaps a curious footnote in history.But I try and make things better for the next generation or two.

They do nothing but rail against change.

Save the strength you have for a fight beyond the dull witted pixel zombies that shout catchphrases,our nation needs it.

Some of us are already paying poll tax through the form of higher taxes. Do you really believe that the new immigrant, who is signed up for wix, section 8, assistance on their electric bill, is not voting democratic? Do you really think the 3rd or 4th generation in public housing is going to vote to turn off the money? Every feel good social program is a means to buy votes. Im simply saying that you have to pay to play. Nothing is free. You have to pay to get a driver's license, your ccw, but a vote ( the most powerful tool in a democracy) is free for every derelict, hobo, piece of trash out there.
A prime example, Friday my wife sends me a pic. Greene county sheriff, VA state police have the intersection of rt 33 and 29 at ruckersville blocked, to let BLM protesters March through. It made her dangerously late for work. So sorry old liberals, White's ashamed to be white, dumb **VOTE IN NOVEMBER**, **VOTE IN NOVEMBER** for brains 20 somethings, and overall trash gets a free pass. But contributing members of society are late for work. My wife said that they are worried about BLM what about her job, HER JOB MATTERS. I imagine though that job is a word lost on most liberals, probably don't know the meaning of the word, but hey at least they can vote....

One last thing. The liberal talking point is to always say insane people should not have guns. They are a threat to their communities. So we need more restrictions on guns. Piece of **VOTE IN NOVEMBER** governor Northam and his ilk foam at the mouth saying it. But they never say that the same threat, same insane person should not be allowed to vote....

Do you really want a bloomberg vote to be worth more than your own?

What about Jeff Soros, or Zuckerberg. How many of your votes are they worth?

A wealth based system will inevitably favor the wealthy, who will take whatever actions are needed to further secure their wealth.

An economy thrives on currency circulation, not on the mass accumulation by a few individuals, who then pay politicians for more tax exemptions so they can accumulate even more, while paying even less.

I don't support Red or Blue, simply because neither side supports me.

I am not colored enough, not rich enough.

I am not religious enough, and not immoral enough.

Like a vast majority of Americans, especially young Americans, I am forced to vote for the least damaging option.

Trump will continue to give contracts and tax breaks to his friends, while ignoring those outside his tax bracket, Whereas Biden would be a good sock puppet for his party, institute more racist ( I said it) programs to secure his voting bloc, get us into another war, while acting to the detriment OF THOSE UNDER HIS TAX BRACKET!

No matter how I vote I lose.

Also, If I pay taxes, I get to vote. Anything less is tyranny.

but a vote ( the most powerful tool in a democracy) is free for every derelict, hobo, piece of trash out there.
A prime example, Friday my wife sends me a pic. Greene county sheriff, VA state police have the intersection of rt 33 and 29 at ruckersville blocked, to let BLM protesters March through. It made her dangerously late for work. So sorry old liberals, White's ashamed to be white, dumb **VOTE IN NOVEMBER**, **VOTE IN NOVEMBER** for brains 20 somethings, and overall trash gets a free pass. But contributing members of society are late for work. My wife said that they are worried about BLM what about her job, HER JOB MATTERS. I imagine though that job is a word lost on most liberals, probably don't know the meaning of the word, but hey at least they can vote.... [/quote]


Good greif,didn't know you and your WIFE were so hard up that SHE could be worry about losing her job in the trump economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CAN WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND SEND RUCK A FEW BUCKS TO KEEP THE WOLF FROM THE DOOR? COMEON' SOMEBODY START A GOFUNDME PAGE FOR THE POOR OLD THING!

Lol, thats cute. Its not the fact of losing a job. Its the principle of the matter. They block traffic for deadbeats and parasites and inconvenience working folks. Do you not see the irony? If your supposed to be at work at a certain time you should be there. It all comes down to principle, something you liberals apparently lack. (common sense too....)

I think you generalize about the demographics currently "protesting".

I also believe that they should not be blocking public highways, and should be charged collectively for harassing motorists.

But you and they share one thing that binds you. You are first and foremost an American citizen, and with that comes certain rights and privileges which should not be infringed upon.

I believe passionately that the vote is what makes our republic what it is, and support giving felons (depending on rap sheet) the right to vote 5 years after completing their sentence. I think that having a say increases someones investment in a system and a community.

I have known good criminals and bad cops, I treat them first as people.

There is so much to unpack here. It smacks of not liking and wanting to ban a thing because you don't like it, not because it is bad. Do you consider a group of police officers blocking traffic at intersections because of a funeral procession blocking traffic for deadbeats and parasites too? Is it the rest of the universes concern that someone did not prioritize things to fit around someone else's small world view? It isn't that liberals lack principal, just that it doesn't align with what you have deemed correct for yourself.

Blocking traffic for a funeral is respectful, blocking traffic and interfering with hard working folks trying to make a living is wrong. Do your protesting but dont interfere with folks trying to make a living or maybe having an emergency, and dont pull old folks out of their vehicles and beat the hell out of them

How long does a funeral procession take to go by, maybe 2 minutes for a long one?

Wow, someone really has gone full RETARD in comparing a funeral procession going by is the same as lazy, worthless, freeloading terrorists blocking traffic!

Charles.

Ouch. We have a macys day parade every year. Approved events get police support. Its the way it has always been. Look at the pro 2A marchs in texas. They got police blockades and protection too.

Also, I take exception with your use of terrorist to describe looters, protesters, and demonstrators. That is a term that has been heavily abused since 9/11, describing everything from a haji mass shooter, to organized crime, to now looters.

I call looters looters. Or even pirates. Criminals to be sure. Not terrorists.


And before I get called out for being a snowflake libtard democrap, while I may lean on the moderate side of things, I regret to report no better ticket then 4 more years. Vote with your heart, yoir obligations, and treat your your fellow americans as you would like to be treated, as equal under the flag. Amen.

....... regret to report no better ticket then 4 more years. Vote with your heart, yoir obligations, and treat your your fellow americans as you would like to be treated, as equal under the flag. Amen. [/quote]

............well,the pattern would be predictable, to say the least.

Anybody else planning on signing up for online classes in Russian,Chinese(Mandarin),and Korean(Northern variant) if he wins?

Ive already been learning Russian, rewatched red dawn 20 times.

Holy crap trump sounds presidential tonight.

So then what do you call blocking public right of ways, intimidating people while eating, destroying and steal from businesses that have nothing to do with what ever garbage that one is mad about? Oh yeah that is terrorism.

Charles.

As I already said:

"I call looters looters. Or even pirates. Criminals to be sure. Not terrorists."

Intimidation, Arson, violence... crimes that are to neither be excused or pardoned. But do you mean to tell me that you think that every single person demonstrating on the streets is a violent criminal?

I happen to believe that there are multiple groups out there. From Church groups, to Community Organizers. From firefighters, to even some members of the Police who think that there has been enough escalation on both sides. And from antifa wannabe commies, to sturmtrupping nazi wannabes who Ironically enough, potentially wouldn't be considered Aryan, or even white by their claimed idols.

There are good people and bad people, bad people doing good things, and good people doing bad things. It is often hard to see what side you are on, as the illusionary waters grow ever murkier.

P.s. For short, Terrorism is an overused term, people have different motives, criminals are still criminal.

P.S. I gave you the exact liberal definition of the term "terrorism" and yet YOU still can't comprehend that!


Charles.

Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/terrorism
noun
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

There is the definition of terrorism, whether you like it or not, it is what it is.

a-s,thank you for the above.

A liberal definition. Thats almost ironic in this case.

The current fed definition of terrorism:

“the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

My entire argument is that the term Terrorist has become overused in the same way that the title of Rascist has.

It was done so politicially and legally so as to cement powers of the government to investigate, arrest, detain, or even prosecute in a manner which would otherwise be an overreach of authority.

I would prefer to use other terms that still apply , such as looter, rioter, or pirate to refer to criminals of like kind, rather then jump all the way to terrorist.

Whats next, calling drone strikes on US territory?

Hah, beat me to it.

I hope you can follow my reasoning for my use of lesser terms.

Could do it by legislation but the better way, in my opinion, would be to pass an amendment via congressional and state ratification or an Article Five Convention. I am a firm believer in term limits. An example of too long in congress would be non other than Biden. 50 years and nothing done except protection for credit card issuers, enrichment of his sons coffers and the firing of a Ukranian prosecutor. A perfect illustration of one year of experience 50 times.

I also would like to see an amendment, or legislation, requiring Congress to live under the same rules they impose on us. Healthcare, retirement, security (2A) and the like should be the same. Congress has set itself up as a cabal of elites. The Communist party (democrat) knows the socialism they intend to impose on us is not what they will have to live by. The Politbureau and the party apparatchiks in the USSR lived well, the middle class (who the dem party falsely claims to be the protectors of) not so well.

Congress should also provide complete transparency regarding the sex peccadillo indemnity fund run by that institution. Would be better if they did away with it altogether.

There are many things that need correcting. We need a complete overhaul. The Dems are trying to destroy our freedom, Constitution and our economy. WE need to return to the powers given to the fed gov. as stated in the Constitution. Self rule is the ultimate freedom. Unfortunately, the Republicans are either actively aiding this or passively letting it happen.

This is not a complete inventory of ills. Freedom does not come about under Marx/Engels but through limitations on the central governments' power. If the democrats party succeeds in November the country is finished as a free nation. As Thomas Paine stated "....when Republican virtues fails, slavery ensues". *

Don't vote Communist in Nov.

*. "Common Sense and Other Writings", Thomas Paine, Barns and Nobel Classics, 2005, page: 30

Warren Buffett, in a interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:

“I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. “You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election.”

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote, for 18 year olds, took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971… before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land… all because of public pressure.

This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011
1. No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!

^^^this

Yes. 100%

An Article V effort has been underway for several years and is really gaining traction. Fifteen states have already passed matching applications restricted to proposals related to federal term limits, federal fiscal restraints, and reducing federal overreach.

The resolution in Virginia was passed in 2016 by the house, but was not passed by the senate. The great thing is that this process bypasses the governors (because it is a resolution and not a bill) and congress (because it says so in Article V....they knew that congress would not behave.)

Once 34 states have passed their resolutions, it allows all 50 states to meet. Each state only gets one vote. A simple majority on any proposed amendment is only a proposal. Passed proposals go back to the states to be ratified. 38 states are required to ratify, so 13 states can effectively kill anything stupid.

We have introduced it every year since then, and the Citizen petition count in Virginia is growing by nearly 1,000 per month. We just broke 51,000. But all 230 of the Soros organizations have come out against COS. Go figure.

Sign the petition and contact your state senator and delegate to pass HJ 5013. Convention of States