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#862086 - 02/23/15 05:37 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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How many of you remember the rioting just a few short months ago all over the country? In particular, Ferguson, Missouri? For quite some time, "community organizers" in the area worked the neighborhoods, churches and other community centers to stir up discontent and organize protests, some violent, which made headlines across the world.
Little attention seemed to be given to the fact support from the highest offices in Washington, D.C. were given to these same community organizers. Take the time to think about the 13 rules for the left above and how they apply to the Michael Brown case and the events that followed.
Below are some links to related reading to the information contained within this thread above for those interested in learning more. Michael Browns parents testify before the United Nations Why did Michael Browns parents testify before the United Nations on torture? Obama raises Ferguson at United Nations
Violation of UN Torture Convention: U....olice brutality U.N. torture watchdog urges U.S. crackdown on police brutality UN Attacks U.S. Gun Rights and More, Citing Ferguson and Cops Torture Fight Set Back by U.S. Failure to Prosecute, U.N. Official Says U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees said... armed conflict After CIA torture revelations, US must now recover moral high ground – UN expert Never forget that the U.N. was formed by...nment agencies. Detroit's Water Crisis: The Flood of Inequality
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#862165 - 02/23/15 07:34 PM
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#862346 - 02/24/15 08:04 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Interesting... I own farms in Georgia and Ohio... My Georgia taxes are about 3,000% of what they were in 1996. My Ohio taxes just doubled (almost). CAUV (Ag. use) was terminated in legislature. Result... many small guys like me (but not me) will sell to the 1%. Also... just bought a cheap 5'x8' trailer needing repairs. BOS was $50... tax was $75. Wrote my Delegate and he said is was a new law $75 minimum or 4.02% rate whichever is higher. (BTW... $1,865 will be my new BOS on all vehicles NOW!!! $1,865 x 4.02% =$75+/-). He called the $75 the cost of providing the "service"... Don't even get me started on the "service" I am provided by the Commonwealth of turning my $$$ into the privilege of my owning my own trailer. Carry that one 10% further... average DMV teller does 4-8 titles per hour... assuming ONLY $75 items (i.e. no new car etc.) that is $300-$600 per hour... no way I am buying that as a valid "cost of doing business". So... is the plan to make you poor? Get you addicted to credit and mandatory $$$ obligations at every turn in the road? So anyone wanna barter now? Firewood for canned food? Oyster for ammo? Meat for medical supplies? Chainsaws for roofing labor?
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#862464 - 02/24/15 01:16 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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10 planks of communism by Karl Marx
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Marginal tax rates increasing as income goes up IS a graduated income tax. This is in opposition to a more fair tax like a national sales tax or flat tax where a person is not taxed at a higher rate the more income they earn.
This is straight from the horses mouth. Match the descriptions below to their correct answers by choosing an answer from the drop-down menu. Continue to Part 2 or, to assess your answers, click on the Check My Answers button at the bottom of the page.
A progressive tax is a tax whose rate _____ as the amount being taxed increases.
This is a progressive tax that people pay the federal government on their income.
In a progressive tax system, the higher your income, the _____ the amount of tax you pay.
The progressive principle also may be used for this kind of tax.
Many states use a _____ to tax the income of their residents.
Below is some more information for those interested in learning more: The IRS is a bureau of the Department of the Treasury and one of the world's most efficient tax administrators. http://www.irs.gov/uac/The-Agency,-its-Mission-and-Statutory-Authority The Treasury Department leads the U.S. Government's engagement in the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The IMF is an organization of 188 member countries that works to foster global monetary cooperation, secure financial stability, facilitate international trade, promote high employment and sustainable economic growth, and reduce poverty around the world. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank are institutions in the United Nations system.
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#862506 - 02/24/15 03:06 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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Most Americans who have went through the public school system have a working knowledge of the civil rights and other related movements in the United States. From the civil war to Jim Crow laws, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King etc. The plight of African Americans in the United States is common knowledge. Most recently, the United States has seen widespread protests across the country centered around the shooting of "unarmed black teenager" Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri and surrounding area's with other similar incidents serving as justification for civil disobedience in various forms which has also included violence, murder, looting, arson etc. We've seen these protests in hundreds of cities across the United States, coast to coast. Some of these incidents have included crimes which could be characterized as terrorism from various fringe elements such as the New Black Panther Party.   http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/...ots-revolution/Below is information from the book, "As Peking See's Us" which lays out data that would suggests the Chinese have for many years sought to exploit minority groups in the United States to their own benefit in order to systematically undermine the United States from within.     http://books.google.com/books?id=-KxNm3T...tes&f=falseTake the time to digest this information above and review who was supporting the guerilla insurgency in Rhodesia. Red China and the Soviet Union. South Africa has a similar history to Rhodesia where apartheid, which has similarities to the American civil rights movement, exercised violence against whites as being justified in the name of social justice. A Proclamation from the Revolution Club, Chicago
This is an important proclamation from Chicago. This effort was launched at the anti-July 4th picnic, “What to the Slave Is Your 4th of July? We are declaring our intention to build up a REAL movement for revolution in Englewood and in other parts of Chicago as part of doing the same across the U.S. We are going to be active all summer building up the influence, the forces and the capacity of the movement for revolution.
And in October we will take another huge step nationally with a whole month of resistance to STOP mass incarceration. It is a world class crime that this system has put over 2½ million people, mainly Blacks and Latinos, in prison cages... Inner city youth demonized, turned into suspects and then shot down like Trayvon Martin. And hundreds of thousands of immigrants, even very small children, are jailed and deported. We say NO MORE to all of that. Related reading: Violence Erupts in Ferguson Beat to Death with Hammer Burn it down Bombing Plot Thwarted Holder Urges Police Restraint DOJ Admonishes Ferguson Police Holder: Communist Plan
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#863377 - 02/26/15 09:21 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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Communism? What year is it? I think lue-jones fell into the Hot Tub Time Machine... LOL! WOLVERINES!!!!!!! Speaking of 'Red Dawn', sometimes life immitates art. Consider the clip below from the original flick which depicts the opening of the U.S. and Mexican border where hostile forces took advantage of the lack of security and invaded. Red Dawn JONES BLASTS OBAMA ON OPEN BORDERS POLICY Sessions on Obama's deportation policy: ‘This is open borders’ Sheriff leading probe into murder of Border Patrol agent claims armed illegal immigrants in military fatigues have been spotted on Texas ranches Cartels suspected as high-caliber gunfire sends Border Patrol scrambling on Rio Grande
"We don't have any armor that can stop a .50-caliber round, so our Border Patrol agents had to take cover when the rounds were richocheting around them," said Gohmert, who has been in the area for the last week to get a first-hand look at the border situation.
"When the shooting stopped, about 40 to 50 people came out on the U.S. side and turned themselves in. So clearly the rounds were being fired to suppress every effort to stop anybody intervening with anyone or anything coming across," Gohmert added. "We have no idea what or how many or whom came across with the other illegal immigrants." Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) has warned all of his colleagues in Congress that President Barack Obama’s new immigration strategy—his plans to legalize millions of illegal alien adults through executive power—could destroy America as we know it. 'This is an invasion': Towns brace for influx of illegals In a news conference, Boehner faulted President Barack Obama.
"We’re seeing a humanitarian disaster, one of the administration’s own making," Boehner said.
Some of the president’s critics go much further. In a June 24 broadcast, conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh said the administration planned the surge at the border.
"You tell me this is not purposeful," Limbaugh said. "Listen. Six months ago, the regime began planning how to transport tens of thousands of undocumented children from the border."
For Limbaugh, the smoking gun is a Jan. 29, 2014, posting for contract work by the Homeland Security Department. The agency said it wanted a private company to take as many as 65,000 children in the course of the year and hand them over to the department of Health and Human Services.
"On Jan. 29, they knew," Limbaugh said. "Somebody had advance knowledge that these thousands of undocumented children would be flooding the border ... All these kids were planned in advance to show up."
Most Americans will remember September 11th, 2001 as a terrorist attack that took the life of 3,000 + Americans and was the catalyst for war. So ask yourself how much sense does it make to leave our borders open when the likely hood of unfriendlys crossing the border is a very real possibility? This is a National Security issue, yet where is our border security? Below are excerpts from a very good movie which was recently on satellite television in its entirety. If you have the chance to catch this entire feature, I would highly recommend doing so. Chinese crossing the border They Come to America Middle Easterners crossing the border They Come to America There are legal ways to become a United States citizen which are open to foreigners who seek a better life in this country. Yet, President Obama has offered amnesty to those who choose to come to this country illegally. While this subject seems to be very much open at this time, we currently have an untold number of illegal aliens flooding the country at this very moment. With amnesty being a matter of public debate, many of these people see a free path to arrive in the United States with little to no consequences while putting an extreme economic burden on American citizens who both pay taxes which go to subsidize many of these illegal aliens and whom have to compete for jobs with these very same illegal aliens. This is a form of wealth redistribution, a hall mark of communism, and an attack on our nations identity and character. Couple this with this administrations support of 'No-Voter Identication' laws, and we're seeing a very real attempt to stack the deck politically for the left with promises of amnesty for these illegal aliens, some of whom come from socialist countries who no doubt share very little if any common ideals with traditional American values. Fortunately many states have stood up against the 'No-Voter Identification' support from the White House but how long that will last is anyones guess? Obama says voter rights threatened from ID laws Obama administration blocks Texas voter ID law Appeals Court Reinstates Texas Voter ID Law Ginsburg Penns Scathing Dissent over Texas Voter ID Laws Ginsburg was Right. Texas Voter ID Law is Stopping People from Voting Supreme Court Blocks Wisconsin Voter ID Law The U.S. Senate’s “Gang of Eight” immigration-reform plan, as well as a strikingly similar plan now being backed by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and a bi-partisan House “Gang,” both offer the “roadmap to citizenship” originally conceived and carefully developed by members of the Communist Party USA working within the Democratic Party According to Loudon, the Communist Party USA has influenced U.S. policy toward illegals since at least the 1960s. He traces the history, showing how communists and communist-founded organizations slowly built the movement from the ground up. While other groups certainly joined the effort, the communists were always at the center.
For example, he tells the story of CPUSA member Bert Corona, the “Communist Father of the ‘Immigrants Rights’ movement.” In 1964, Corona, Cesar Chavez and future Democratic Socialists of America member Dolores Huerta forced Congress to end the guest worker “Bracero” program. Later, Corona sought ways to address “problems confronting Mexicans in the United States who had no visas or citizenship documents” – in other words, illegal aliens – including “how to defend persons detained by immigration authorities and how to help immigrants acquire disability and unemployment insurance and welfare.” Today’s Communist Party USA cites the current amnesty effort as its top legislative priority. Its official position is virtually indistinguishable from that of the Democratic Party:
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#863532 - 02/26/15 02:39 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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lue-jones
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[b]6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.
The FAA, FCC, and the ICC (Interstate Commerce Commission) are all government entities that propose to regulate how we travel and what is said. There is nothing particularly disturbing about this now, but what about in the future? Could the government shut down communication or transportation for various people groups? Yes, they could pretty much do whatever they want. There is no competition here. There is no free market private entity as a choice. I thought the government made monopolies illegal? Oh, that’s right they did, except for where they have a monopoly.
Above is part of Marx and Engels 10 Planks of Communism, hallmarks of a communist society and specific examples of such in the United States. Today's front page headline on my browser is of particular interest because the FCC has approved tougher regulations on internet neutrality. The plan, which puts the Internet in the same regulatory camp as the telephone and bans business practices that are "unjust or unreasonable," represents the biggest regulatory shakeup to the industry in almost two decades. Net neutrality is the idea that websites or videos load at about the same speed. That means you won't be more inclined to watch a particular show on Amazon Prime instead of on Netflix because Amazon has struck a deal with your service provider to load its data faster. Opponents, including many congressional Republicans, said the FCC plan constitutes dangerous government overreach that would eventually drive up consumer costs and discourage industry investment.
Republican FCC Commissioners Mike O'Rielly and Ajit Pai, who voted against the plan, alleged that President Barack Obama unfairly used his influence to push through the regulations, calling the plan a "half-baked, illogical, internally inconsistent and indefensible document." Michael Powell, a former Republican FCC chairman who now runs the National Cable and Telecommunications Association, warned that consumers would almost immediately "bear the burden of new taxes and increased costs, and they will likely wait longer for faster and more innovative networks since investment will slow in the face of bureaucratic oversight." It's not true that consumers would see new taxes right away. The Internet Tax Freedom Act bans taxes on Internet access, although that bill expires in October. While Congress is expected to renew that legislation, it's conceivable that states could eventually push Congress for the ability to tax Internet service now that it has been deemed a vital public utility.
"Read my lips. More Internet taxes are coming. It's just a matter of when," Commissioner Pai said. By 2010, the FCC enacted open Internet rules, but the agency's legal approach was eventually struck down. FCC officials are hoping to erase the legal ambiguity by no longer classifying the Internet as an "information service" but a "telecommunications service" subject to Title II of the 1934 Communications Act.
That would dramatically expand regulators' power over the industry by requiring providers to act in the public's interest and enabling the FCC to fine companies found to be employing "unreasonable" business practices.
The FCC says it won't apply some sections of Title II, including price controls. So why were we even considering Net Neutrality in the first place? Well these buzz words like “open” and “freedom” and “equal opportunity” promulgate the idea that we should be treating everybody equally, whether it’s profitable or not. Where is the fun in that? Treating all services and applications equally stand in the way of the top dogs’ freedom to make the money they deserve. Why should we let smalltime companies reap the same potential benefits as AT&T? I mean, really what we’re dealing with here is communism. These small, poor, stingy companies get to stand beside the victorious ISP leaders, regardless of who put in more work. First Obamacare and now Net Neutrality? Where is the capitalist America that won back-to-back world wars?
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#863595 - 02/26/15 04:40 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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lue-jones
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3. Discrediting of the oppositionAn example of discrediting the opposition in the United States is the labeling of returning veterans, patriots etc. as domestic terrorists. 5. Control of Gun ownershipThis is probably the last place I need to provide examples of gun control in the United States. Take a look at the recent rhetoric surrounding Universal Background Checks, bans on specific types of ammunition etc. There is a long list to go through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jxwqTecZgU Above are two tennants of retired Lt. General Jerry Boykins elements of Marxist insurgency. Below is information attesting to the latest attempt at closing "The Gun Show Loophole" which has in recent times taken on the title of "Universal/Expanded Background Checks." Which is little more than an attempt to end private transactions in the United States and require all sales, trades to go through an FFL. This kind of legislation would have an immediate impact on states like Virginia and websites like Virginia Gun Trader. Notice the word "may" in the wording below. This is a dangerous slippery slope where precedent is being set to deny purchases for crimes which have not occurred and "may" not even occur. Senators Introduce Bill to Stop Terrorists from Buying Firearms, Explosives “Sadly, this situation isn’t rare,” she continued. “Individuals on the consolidated terrorist watch list who sought to purchase a weapon in 2013 and 2014 cleared the background check in 455 out of 486 attempts. We need to close this dangerous loophole and keep weapons out of the hands of terrorists.” The bill would give the attorney general discretion to “deny the transfer of a firearm” if he or she “determines that the transferee is known (or appropriately suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism, or providing material support or resources for terrorism” and “has a reasonable belief that the prospective transferee may use a firearm in connection with terrorism.”
It includes international and domestic terrorism. Federal law already prohibits nine categories of dangerous persons from purchasing or possessing firearms, including the mentally ill and criminals,” he said. “Yet, after almost 14 years, we still allow suspected terrorists the ability to purchase firearms.” Read more: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/02/25/fei.../#ixzz3StB3Xst8Senator Feinstein opposed the amendment (which didn’t pass) on the basis that veterans have PTSD and can’t be trusted with guns. Here are her exact words:
The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transfer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member or veteran and there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.
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I think we have to – if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally, don’t have access to this kind of weapon. Republicans said Wednesday that a Homeland Security Department intelligence assessment unfairly characterizes military veterans as right-wing extremists. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.
Before his 1979 discharge for distributing racist literature, Mr. Miller served for 20 years in the Army, including two tours in Vietnam and service as a Green Beret. Later that year he took part (but was not charged) in a deadly shooting of Communist protesters in Greensboro, N.C. In 2009, the Department of Homeland Security issued a nine-page report detailing the threat of domestic terrorism by the white power movement. This short document outlined no specific threats, but rather a set of historical factors that had predicted white-supremacist activity in the past — like economic pressure, opposition to immigration and gun-control legislation — and a new factor, the election of a black president. But it would be irresponsible to overlook the high rates of combat trauma among the 2.4 million Americans who have served in our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the full impact of which has not yet materialized. Veterans of those conflicts represent just 10 percent of those getting mental health services through the Department of Veterans Affairs, where the overwhelming majority of those in treatment are still Vietnam veterans. That Mr. Miller was able to carry out an act of domestic terror at two locations despite his history of violent behavior should alarm anyone concerned about public safety. Would he have received greater scrutiny had he been a Muslim, a foreigner, not white, not a veteran? The answer is clear, and alarming. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said the assault weapons ban passing Congress is unlikely in an interview with the Denver Post Monday. Pelosi focused on another attainable goal—passing legislation requiring all gun buyers to get a background check.
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#864932 - 03/01/15 12:37 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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On "Cashin' In" today, Eric Bolling said the president who promised to "fundamentally transform America" has been busy fulfilling that promise. "If the president is able to take over our Second Amendment the way he took over the free market, health care, immigration and the Internet, we will be administering the last rights to our first rights: free speech, religion and liberty," Bolling asserted.
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#865519 - 03/02/15 07:22 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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"Above are two tennants of retired Lt. General Jerry Boykins elements of Marxist insurgency. Below is information attesting to the latest attempt at closing "The Gun Show Loophole" which has in recent times taken on the title of "Universal/Expanded Background Checks." Which is little more than an attempt to end private transactions in the United States and require all sales, trades to go through an FFL. This kind of legislation would have an immediate impact on states like Virginia and websites like Virginia Gun Trader. Notice the word "may" in the wording below. This is a dangerous slippery slope where precedent is being set to deny purchases for crimes which have not occurred and "may" not even occur. "
As lue-jones stated in his post, see above, gun control is about control not only of guns but of people. Unfettered firearm ownership = freedom. The government has no right, and no business, suppressing, in any manner, the inherent right to won firearms. I lived in Maryland most of my life. That state has very oppressive firearm laws regarding transfers. These laws were routinely violated. I am aware that there are board rules regarding the violating of applicable laws in this matter, however, these laws should be ignored. Jury nullification should be routinely practiced in this area. Gun owners should make a concerted effort to continue FTF transactions. While this is happening, extra effort should be made in education the public in the realities of firearms as well as replacement of legislators who support firearm limitations. We cannot, and should not, be willing to let our rights and safety be removed due to some Hitler wannabe thinking he/she knows best.
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#865989 - 03/02/15 11:24 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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“This seems to be an area where everyone should agree that if there are armor-piercing bullets available that can fit into easily concealed weapons, that it puts our law enforcement at considerably more risk.” Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015.../#ixzz3TIFcXks1 Josh Earnest: The president has long believed that there are some common sense steps that we can take to, and what I mean is the federal government including Congress, to ensure that we are protecting the Second Amendment rights of all law-abiding Americans while also some common sense steps to prevent people who shouldn’t have guns from getting them… It’s a common sense step we can take. Hammond said the timing is not a coincidence.
“There is a massive backlog of M855 ammunition from NATO, which was about to come onto the American market as a result of the fact NATO is being encouraged to go from lead to copper ammunition,” Hammond said. On Friday February 13 at 4:00 pm, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms released a proposal to ban commonly used M855 "green tip" AR-15 ammunition under the guise of law enforcement safety. The same day the proposal was released, on a Friday of a three day holiday weekend, ATF opened up a shortened 30-day period for the public to submit comments about the new regulation.
But it turns out, ATF has been working on a ban of AR-15 "green-tip" ammunition for quite some time and has already issued the ban in its new, 2014 Regulation Guide. 1-in-7 Inches
This is the twist chosen by the military since the switch was made to the M16A2—and the 62gr. M855 cartridge—in the 1980s. This twist is found on the M4 carbine, the M16A4, the Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle and even the HK416. Its ability to stabilize tracer rounds in-flight is one of the reasons that the military chose this twist rate.
This barrel will stabilize bullets of up to 90 grains, and can handle the 70- to 77-grain bullets at just about any velocity, which makes it well suited for carbines with very short barrels. If you want a Mil-Spec clone, the 1-in-7 twist is the way to go. Under intense pressure from majorities in the House and Senate, the National Rifle Association's huge membership, the Obama administration has abruptly changed course and is rescinding its push to ban popular and cheap ammo used by AR-15 owners.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said 80,000 comments rolled in
"Any 5.56 round" is "a challenge for officer safety," he said. Jones asked lawmakers to help in a review of a 1986 bill written to protect police from so-called "cop killer" rounds that largely exempted rifle ammo like the 5.56 because it has been used by target shooters, not criminals. Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) introduced the Armor Piercing Bullets Act, which he said would ban the sale of “.223-dervied, 5.56x45mm NATO ‘green tip’ rounds” that are commonly used on the AR-15 rifle. Without citing caliber or type of firearm used, Israel cited “50 law enforcement” deaths in 2014 as a reason for reviving the M855 ammo ban.
Israel did not point to one single case where M855 ammo was used in an officer’s death, nor did he counter House Judiciary Committee chairman Robert Goodlatte’s (R-VA-6th Dist.) claim that, “Millions upon millions of M855 rounds have been sold and used in the U.S., yet the ATF has not even alleged, much less offered evidence, that even one such round has ever been fired from a handgun at a police officer.”
Instead, The Hill reports that Israel took up the same arguments that were made against the M855 round months ago.
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#866414 - 03/03/15 07:37 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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President Barack Obama today introduced his plan for a progressive takeover of state and local policing. “We have a great opportunity… to really transform how we think about community law enforcement relations,” he said Monday. “We need to seize that opportunity… this is something that I’m going to stay very focused on in the months to come,” Obama said, as he touted a new interim report from his Task Force on 21st Century Policing. Obama also instructed his media allies to help a federalization of policing, and to sideline critics of centralized policing rules.
Along with retired Lt. General Jerry Boykin, retired Command Sgt. Major Dan Page has also been an individual whose efforts to warn the American people of a direction being taken in this country which could be described as ugly has served as one of my basis and inspirations for threads just like this one here at Virginia Gun Trader. Interestingly, retired Command Sgt. Major Page has warned anyone who would listen well in advance of "everything becoming one" in particular the nations police departments. With this information and others in mind, I can not say that I am surprised to see the yahoo headline above where a federalization of local and state police is discussed. Interestingly, Command Sgt. Major Page was also front and center on CNN during the Ferguson, Missouri protests. One of the goals of the protestors was to target law enforcement tactics, where support from D.C. to these agitator propagandists included regular admonishment of the Ferguson police from Eric Holder of the Justice Department. . Related Reading: The people of the former Deutsche Demokratische Republik (DDR), the German Democratic Republic, as the state had called itself for forty years, were clamoring for instant revenge. Their wrath was directed primarily against the country's communist rulers—the upper echelon of the Sozialistische Einheitspartei (SED), the Socialist Unity Party. The tens of thousands of second-echelon party functionaries who had enriched themselves at the expense of their cocitizens were also prime targets for retribution.
Particularly singled out were the former members of the Stasi, the East German secret police, who previously had considered themselves the "shield and sword" of the party. “There were several of us who wanted to talk about the camps, but the agents made it clear we would be arrested,” a psychiatric counselor told me. “We were under orders not to say anything.”
The sources said workers were guarded by a security force from the BCFS, which the Department of Health and Human Services hired to run the Lackland Camp.
The sources say security forces called themselves the “Brown Shirts.”
“It was a very submissive atmosphere,” the counselor said. “Once you stepped onto the grounds, you abided by their laws – the Brown Shirt laws.” In 1921 Hitler set up a group within the NSDAP that would protect his political meetings from attacks by rivals. It gave a military look, feel and discipline to the party. This group was known as the ‘stormtroopers’ (Sturm Abteilung – SA) or ‘Brownshirts’. The reputation of the Nazi police and the secret police lead by Himmler was such that no-one wished to cause offence. People kept their thoughts to themselves unless they wished to invite trouble. In this sense, Nazi Germany was a nation run on fear of the government. Hitler had created a one party state within months of being appointed chancellor.
His only remaining problem from his point of view was loyalty within his own party ranks. In June 1934, he overcame this with the Night of the Long Knives.
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#870101 - 03/11/15 02:00 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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lue-jones
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We're beginning to see common theme's across the country in numerous protests involving police officer involved shootings. As demonstrated above in the thread, Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' is playing a significant role in the targeting of police officer tactics. Which is one of the significant targets of the Marxists agitator propagandists, how police officers operate in the United States. The latest shooting(s) in Wisconsin and elsewhere share very similar commonality's with one another. Notice the media plays up the "unarmed black teenager' angle while focusing on police procedure, training and the "white police officer" angle as well. These are tactics meant to divide the African American and white communitys. The recipe for protests appears to be the same, pick an event where there is room to exploit an angle which can be used to the communists benefit and bang on it with a particular focus on the avenues which lead closests to the Marxist's goals and intentions. In this case its focusing on how police conduct themselves and their procedures and administration. In the past, we've seen similar tactics used by the communists in shaping the publics perception, Vietnam for example, where protests at home lead to widespread contempt for America's Marines, soldiers and alike where these men were labeled as baby killers, spit on in airports etc. ATLANTA — The decision by police in Dekalb County, Ga., to hand an investigation into the officer-related shooting of an unarmed, and naked, black man to the state bureau of investigation is part of a dramatic re-think, amid continuing street protests, of how to adjudicate cases where unarmed civilians die at the hands of US police officers. Before leaving office after six years, Attorney General Eric Holder has vowed to introduce changes that would lower the bar to make it easier to indict US police officers for civil rights violations. The case, policing experts say, will be a test of a new state law in Wisconsin, the first one of its kind in the nation, which was implemented last year in the wake of a number of high-profile shootings. The law mandates that local police departments hand all investigations into officer-involved shootings to the state Division of Criminal Investigations. Each new case of an African American person killed is a grim reminder of the urgent need for reform in the use of force against American citizens. Although excessive use of force disproportionately affects African Americans and people living in poverty, it can affect people everywhere regardless of race, age or gender.
Whenever this kind of tragedy occurs, questions arise about police training and appropriate use of force. We must remind the investigating authorizes of the need for transparency, that black lives do matter, and sadly, another family is now experiencing the pain of loss in Madison, Wisconsin.
We must push for solutions within our criminal justice system that will help keep our communities safe, our children protected and our officers properly trained. Officer Matt Kenny, a 12-year veteran of the department, had responded to a complaint regarding a man "yelling and jumping in front of cars," authorities said.
Madison Tense as City Deals With Police Shooting of Unarmed Teen
Kenny followed the suspect into an apartment after hearing a disturbance, police said.
Inside, Kenny found Tony Robinson, a 19-year-old who had previously pleaded guilty to armed robbery charges in 2014. An altercation ensued and Kenny shot Robinson, who died in a nearby hospital that evening. Kenny was also injured, according to Koval, but a description of his wounds was not provided.
Robinson’s death sparked protests throughout Madison this weekend, where demonstrators carried banners saying “Black Lives Matter.” That was a collaboration between Black Lives Matter and the Blackout Collective, which is a full-service direct action training collective. Most of us are folks who had some kind of connection to what is happening in Ferguson. Several of us had been to Ferguson and were working with local organizers. But Black Lives Matter dates back to Trayvon Martin, right?
A. Garza:Very good! Yes, Black Lives Matter did start after George Zimmerman was acquitted after the murder of Trayvon Martin. Opal and Patrice and I were on pins and needles to see what the verdict would be. When the verdict was announced and George Zimmerman was acquitted, we saw a lot of things in our community — black folks, but also progressives across the country — that we thought needed to be shifted. And then as the day goes on, people protest and hold a candlelight vigil and the police arrive with M16s and dogs. This juxtaposition of the black protestor up against these police officers — mostly white, male police officers I think there’s obviously policy changes — you know, Michelle Alexander calls it the new Jim Crow. We would see less funding towards law enforcement. We would see more funding in black communities towards shelter and food and education.
But we have to do more than that. We have to shift culture. Darren Wilson killed Mike Brown because he thought he looked like a demon. Policy is not going to shift that. Jim Crow laws are gone, but we still have Jim Crow hate.
Obama just pushed for this hundred-something million dollars toward body cameras. OK, that’s an interesting first step. That was definitely one of the demands. But we can’t think that body cameras are going to change policing.
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#870668 - 03/12/15 08:19 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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lue-jones
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FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) - Two law enforcement officers were shot around midnight at a Ferguson, Missouri, protest outside of the city police department, St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said.
Belmar said a 32-year-old officer from suburban Webster Groves was shot in the face and a 41-year-old officer from St. Louis County was shot in the shoulder. Both were taken to a local hospital, where Belmar said they were conscious. He said he did not have further details about their conditions but described their injuries as "very serious." While most American's are busy with everything but what counts the most, the house is burning down in the United States. There is a very real movement in this country to fundamentally undermine our system in order to usher in something ugly and most are blissfully unaware at both what is actually occurring and what it will mean for future generations of "Americans" who are being lead down a path of socialist ruin. The conversations around the United States should be focused squarely on protecting our republic and securing traditional American culture, ideals and social norms. Instead, most are busy with March Madness basketball brackets instead of putting out the fire which is being fed by the communists in Washington, D.C. But for others, it was not enough. They demanded more changes, including disbanding the entire police department and the resignation of Mayor James Knowles. Authorities believe a handgun was used to shoot the two officers, Belmar said, "based on the way the shots sounded and the injuries to the police officers."
He said that shell casings had been recovered in the area of the shooting, but "we don't know 100% yet if those are going to be the shell casings that are going to be attributed to this shooting." "The shots came from a block away from the protests," she said. "It's incredibly dangerous to try to link the protesters to this without evidence. It could be someone trying to frame the protesters or someone who was aiming at the protesters and was a bad shot. Whoever shot put everyone's life in danger." Witnesses reported hearing as many as four shots and seeing the flash of a muzzle about 125 yards away from the police, but no arrests had been made as of Belmar's briefing. Police believe the shooter used a handgun, he said. Attorney General Eric Holder, who had ordered an investigation of the Ferguson police department after a racially-charged shooting last August, condemned the shooting of "two brave law enforcement officers" as "inexcusable and repugnant." One officer from Webster Groves, 32, was shot in the face and another from St. Louis County, 41, was hit in the shoulder. St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said their injuries were considered “serious,” the Associated Press reported. By early Thursday afternoon, both were released from the hospital, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said, Reuters reported.
One witness told CNN the bullets, about four of them, came from a nearby hill, rather than from the crowd of protesters. Police still don’t have suspects or solid leads.
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#874125 - 03/19/15 06:45 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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aka-cyberman
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social justice comes in many forms. i believe the death penalty is a form of social justice.
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#874193 - 03/19/15 08:48 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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toughtom12
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Loc: Centreville/Manassas
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Relax Lue! You are looking for a reason to link everything and anything to Communism... Like cyberman said, social justice has more than one meaning.
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#874246 - 03/19/15 10:36 PM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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toughtom12
Gun fool
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Lue,
I admit that my comments referencing Red Dawn & Hot Tub Time Machine were indeed snarky. I was just playfully teasing you for saying that communism is a serious threat to the U.S. at the moment. I think that on the list of things we need to worry about in 2015, communism is pretty far down the list... Like below climate change down the list... Or alien invasion...
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#874277 - 03/20/15 12:30 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
[Re: lue-jones]
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lue-jones
Demigod
Registered: 02/17/12
Posts: 611
Loc: Virginia, USA.
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toughtom, Yet another empty, devoid of fact post? Why am I not surprised? See above about my thoughts on your familiarity with the subject at hand. With a mounting portfolio of evidence about the communist direction the United States is taking, I find it amusing to see you deny its danger to the U.S. in light of all the evidence to suggest communism is a very real threat to freedom. Of course, with your lack of content in three posts within this thread now I am not holding out hope you're even aware of the dangers communism has posed to any nation which has suffered as a result of communist ideology. Millions of people have died as a result of communism. That is lives and families destroyed, people imprisoned, the people starved and populations put into perpetual states of fear should they speak out against the repressive regimes.But what do facts matter to someone like yourself, who is little more than an internet troll when the goal is not an honest conversation but rather a personal playground to undermine the severity of the issue with red herrings, ad hominem positions and juvenile rebuttals. The only thing I have gathered from any of your posts is that you disagree lol. No reasons given why, only typical troll responses devoid of any content, wholely relying on denials and snarky comments alone. By all means continue to post in the thread, as it puts more eyes on a very serious topic. The more people who are aware of the issue, the better. But forgive me if I fail to reply to you any further, as you've been afforded a handful of opportunities to legitimately discuss the issue and have failed miserably in doing so. You will notice parts of this post written in crayon, that is only because it reflects my last resort in explaining something to someone who fails to see the obvious even when its spelled out for them like a child.Some people in our country, just like some in the world, are unaware of the things that they might be facing and are claiming that there is no longer any danger of communism in our day. They assume that communism was simply a scourge of the 20th Century and that it had been lived through and ended in that period, and that it is no longer a threat. They are very much invested in that idea and they are neither aware of the dangers they are facing, nor able to take precautions against them. On the contrary, by saying that there is no danger of communism, they are dragging people around them into a state of complacency and thus drag themselves into that scourge as well. With such an approach, they give way to the communist mentality to easily become stronger and find a door with which to gain entry. That is because communism gains strength and expands at times when people are lulled into complacency as they say "There is no communist threat anymore" and do not take any precautions against this scourge.
People who say that "The danger of communism ended in the 20th Century" are in a grave deception. Communism has never ceased to exist. So long as Darwinism continues to exist, communism will continue to exist as well. That is because fundamentally both of these rest on a shared philosophy: Dialectic Materialism. Darwin adapted this thought to nature and Marx adapted it to history and society. Consequently, just like in the 20th Century, Marxism continues to exist today as well and so long as Darwinism continues to exist, it would never disappear from the world politics. Ironically, even though the party's leaders were to go to jail in the 1950s because they had supposedly advocated the violent overthrow of the American government, no one in any position of responsibility seriously worried that the party would mount a successful revolution. A far more tangible danger was the possibility that individual Communists in sensitive positions could subtly influence the nation's foreign policy or undermine its ability to defend itself. The passing of the former Communist dictator of Cambodia, Pol Pot, has been marked by a mixture of relief that he can no longer torment his countrymen by his loathsome presence and anger that he has escaped the bar of justice. As the head of the radical Maoist Khmer Rouge, Pol Pot was the architect of the "killing fields," a seemingly incomprehensible genocide where Cambodian cities were systematically depopulated and the entire Cambodian population enslaved on collective farms with a draconian equality imposed on all. Typically, the slightest dissent would be punished by the offender getting clubbed or starved to death, and so many Cambodians were dispatched by such methods (approximately 1.7 million between 1975 and 1979 according to one estimate) that fields filled with corpses became the macabre hallmark of the regime. On April 17, 1975, Pol Pot led the Communist forces of the Khmer Rouge into the capital city of Phnom Penh, beginning a vicious four-year regime in Cambodia. Approximately one million people were killed, or one-seventh of Cambodia’s population according to conservative estimates, in a country no bigger than the state of Missouri. Most died from starvation, malnutrition and mistreated or misdiagnosed illness. Another 200,000 were executed as enemies of the state. How did this happen? With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia. In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it. Following its success in World War II, the United States faced the future with a sense of righteousness and confidence. The principal threat to U.S. security and that of struggling democracies was Communist aggression from the Soviet Union and its perceived ally, Red China. In order to contain the spread of Communism, any sign of aggressive action would be met quickly and forcefully.
The "police action" in Korea was the first test of America's resolve to support democracy in Asia, but was only another war in China's long struggle to eliminate Western influence. Although the Communist advance was stopped, it came at a great price - the death of 54,000 Americans. The Korean War also brought down a reigning American military hero, and signified the beginning of the Cold War era.
Chinese support to Communist strongholds south of its borders threatened the weak democracies of Indochina (Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia). After U.S. financial and military aid was increased throughout the 1950s - then alarmingly escalated in the 1960s and early 1970s - America was finally forced to admit defeat against the advancing tide of Communism. The price of The Vietnam War was extremely high, costing more than 58,000 lives and $140 billion dollars. By my account alone, the above information details five academically acceptable sources detailing the threat of communism and the reasons why it should be taken extremely seriously within the United States. When variable after variable adds up and points to communist ideology, at what point do the majority of readers of this thread understand we're headed down a path which leads to national destruction? Most Americans seem to be under the impression that unless statues of Stalin are erected, that communism is not an issue to our national security. Even in the face of countless examples that say otherwise. And the scary part is the Obama administration is hardly finished, with recent headlines in the mainstream media detailing a rampage over the last two years of his tenure. In closing, I will add one last academically acceptable source detailing a time when Americans did take the communist threat seriously. This was when America was still America. Unfortunately, with the complacency of "Americans" just like 'toughtom12' we're strolling straight down the communist path of national ruin. Notice how many good American men, women and families suffered as a result of attempting to stop the flow of communism. And that is only part of the tale, not the overall picture. Now it has came to our shores and their sacrifices are ignored for convenience, ignorance and the chance to play around on the internet instead of recognizing the severity of the issue. As a result of the strikes and unrest, the strikers were branded as "Reds" and as being unpatriotic. Fear of strikes leading to a Communist revolution spread throughout the country. Hysteria took hold. "Red hunting" became the national obsession. Colleges were deemed to be hotbeds of Bolshevism, and professors were labeled as radicals. The hunt reached down to public secondary schools where many teachers were fired for current or prior membership in even the most mildly of leftist organizations. The American Legion was founded in St. Louis on May 8, 1919 "[t]o uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America; to maintain law and order; to foster and perpetuate a one hundred per cent Americanism." By the fall, the Legion had 650,000 members, and over a million by year's end. While most of the Legion engaged in such relatively innocuous activities as distributing pamphlets, the patriotic and anti-communist fervor of the Legion led many to engage in vigilante justice meted out against Reds both real and suspected. The Legion's prevalence in the country and reputation for anti-communism was so great that the phrase "Leave the Reds to the Legion" became the "Wazzzzup" of the late teens.
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#874286 - 03/20/15 02:15 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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toughtom12
Gun fool
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I am not disputing the fact that communism is a real thing, and I appreciate you spelling out those facts in crayon. Yes communist regimes have murdered millions of innocent people, ruined countless lives, put people in fear of speaking out, etc. I am disputing your opinion that communism is a serious threat to our country. Every connection that you are making just is not there. You compare the Ferguson Anti Police protestors to communism!?! You post a link where Darwinism is criticized as being communist!?! I'm pretty sure that the people who are using their 1st amendment rights to protest Police Brutality are not commies, and I am pretty sure that most rational individuals who accept the fact of evolution (Darwinism) are not commies either. I am not on here " Trolling " like you claim I am. I am just pointing out that your arguments are paranoid delusions. I feel an obligation to voice my opinion when I see a fellow member of the Gun Trader that I happen to disagree with. I thank you for your invitation to continue posting on your thread, and I will not be offended if you choose not to respond to me. I will remain open minded, and I would happily change my mind if any real evidence were produced. Sincerely, Tom
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#874288 - 03/20/15 03:32 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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lue-jones
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You compare the Ferguson Anti Police protestors to communism!?! Did I? I think you will find that I said these protestors were being organized by agitator propagandists, community organizers. In essence, these protestors are being used by groups like the 'Revolutionary Club of Chicago' to further their communist agenda. They're only pawns in a very real game of chess waged by the communists. Did you by chance miss the photographs I provided of the leaders of the 'Revolutionary Club of Chicago' taking notes and tallying data within the protest themselves? Or those same communists club members in amongst the protestors lighting Molotov Cocktails? Let me provide you with a source from CNN detailing exactly that. That the communists are actively engaged in the protests in Ferguson. HILL: They are anarchists. I mean, they are literally politically identified as anarchists, one person was. The other person, I was told by people in the crowd that they're from a revolutionary communist group from Illinois and both of them were in the crowd, both white. And both pushed out. And the crowd two people said go back to your neighborhood with that instead of coming in here and messing with us. They actually were asking the police to arrest them at some point. They didn't want to be lumped in with these two people. You post a link where Darwinism is criticized as being communist!?! You can't be serious? Are you trolling or is your reading comprehension that poor? I think you may want to go back and re-read that link again. It stated that both Darwinism and Communism are based off of Dialectic Materialism.Nowhere did it criticize Darwin as being communist lol. I am not on here " Trolling " like you claim I am. By your own admission you're in this thread making snarky comments, and "playfully teasing." That is the very definition of trolling. Usually its not a good idea to deny trolling after you've admitted to that very thing. Lue,
I admit that my comments referencing Red Dawn & Hot Tub Time Machine were indeed snarky. I was just playfully teasing you for saying that communism is a serious threat to the U.S. at the moment. I think that on the list of things we need to worry about in 2015, communism is pretty far down the list... Like below climate change down the list... Or alien invasion... I am just pointing out that your arguments are paranoid delusions. Based off your arguments above, its safe to assume one of us in indeed delusional. But I am pleased to have the chance to dismantle you based off the "snarky" comments and trolling you've contributed to this thread.
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#874345 - 03/20/15 08:40 AM
Re: Communism in the United States Today
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6.5x55
Nature points out the folly of men
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It has been a fact for almost 100 years that the communist world party boys have plenty of sleepers here in the U.S.
Slush funds make sure that local agitators show up the same day that a news event occurs.
Does anybody think those drop-outs in Ferguson and L.A. have the skills to get professionally printed posters and t-shirts made in a day? The provocateurs buy the goods, wake up the drunks and dopers and pass out the "protest" signs.
Listen to audio of protestors. Most are so damn illiterate that they can't spell the word justice.
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