Should be no surprise that Biden’s ATF will try make felons out of millions! You have a 120 days to comply or else…
Pistol brace rule

^^

https://youtu.be/yOZ_6XC51CI

I will wager suits will tie this up in short order, and courts will place a Stay on any action by ATF.

I suspect any processing of paperwork submitted for the "free" tax stamp will also be placed on hold.

In the end this will most likely be ruled overreach by the ATF, and all paperwork submitted can be held in a special database that can skirt the restrictions called out in the Firearms Owners Protection Act against maintaining Central Databases at Federal, State, or Local levels.

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

What are personal guesses concerning the prices of braced weapons and bare braces (skyrocket or bottom drop out):
* Before stay of action
* While tied up in Court while different State and Federal courts rule differently

Just curious. My guess both. Some will speculate and ask outrageous prices, some will panic and want to sell.

Lol, forfeit or destroy.
Remove is way easier,cheaper and allows the option to reattach when BATFE loses in court.


Let the panic selling begin.
It's a" buyers market".



https://youtu.be/-yXsgtkOed4

I suspect selling will occur, standard prices at first (but how many are going to buy if they have to register and/or remove braces), then as deadlines nears prices will plummet in the panic selling scenario.

Unfortunately I am currently selling stuff to help fund purchase of a piece of property.

https://youtu.be/bocTwx0_4J4


https://youtu.be/WnvPdE75qZs


Excellent videos.

Yep both good videos - thanks.

I had already viewed the 2nd (Wash Gun. . ) and seen the first presenter's video from the previous day (when the "rule" dropped).

I have been following the brace topic pretty close. I went thru the whole process to get a business license, build prototype brace, patent the prototype brace, and submit brace to the ATF with brace attached to gain a letter (similar to letters that come with other braces when you buy them).

The whole accessory attached to a firearm was a requirement after ATF sitting on everyone's devices before returning them all at the same time (that was about a year to get to that stage).



I have a prototype brace attached to a handgun that the ATF has had for roughly 4 years now . . . . with zero response (other than we have it). Not even our Fed Govt is this inefficient.

So, if I understand things as they currently stand

1. Wait until Apr to see if there is a 'stay' issued by a court
2. SBR it for 'free', as in $200, minus your freedom.
3. If less than 4lbs and between "12-24" you are ok, i.e. a Ruger 22 Charger.

Is there a list anywhere of possible 'pass' vs 'fail' firearms based on ATF rules?

Some examples from the ATF site. Also, they are only offering a "forbearance" for the $200 tax..

Commercially available firearms equipped with a “stabilizing brace” that are short-barreled rifles
Common weapon platforms with attached “stabilizing brace” designs that are short-barreled rifles

So I wonder now since these are technically considered to be SBR'd from the factory (brace came with pistol)....will you need to engrave anything on the SBR since you're not the maker/changing anything on the firearm ?

1. ATF finally releases braced pistol regulation



NOTE: Be sure to read item #2, below, after reading this part.



ATF has pretty much said that pistols with braces are short-barreled rifles and need to be registered as an NFA item.



ATF Unveils Pistol Brace Rule Everything Is An SBR!

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/01/atf-unveils-pistol-brace-rule-everything-is-an-sbr/



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ATF Final Rule: Stabilizer Brace Owners Have 120 Days to Register Them

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/...-register-them/



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ATF Ruling Explanation by Anthony - He is an Attorney

https://youtu.be/bocTwx0_4J4







VCDL Attorney Gilbert Ambler’s

Good read:
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/pistol-braces-and-the-atf/#toc3

Give a bit of history of the brace situation.

Serious question and asking for a friend of course.
I have a 22lr “pistol” with a brace. I can’t find an available upper or barrel.
Could I just remove the brace and it would automatically be legal?
Could one also just remove an upper on a firearm in question and claim that it was “converted “ to a rifle, but I just currently do not have the upper? I mean in case an alphabet agency shows up at the friends door.
According the chart above that is an option, but when I skim through that 300 page pdf it kind of gives the GOV the ability to just identify whatever they see as an SBR.

Thanks! (For my friend )

https://youtu.be/owSVm67Wbfs

How to pin/welded.

Don't fall for amnesty trap.
https://youtu.be/DggOmUXxVWY

If you register your braced firearm with the ATF to become a SBR/SBS and the $200 tax stamp is waived, does that mean you can put any stock on the firearm? Or does it have to remain a braced SBR/SBS?If you register your braced firearm with the ATF to become a SBR/SBS and the $200 tax stamp is waived, does that mean you can put any stock on the firearm? Or does it have to remain a braced SBR/SBS?

If the firearm is registered as an SBR, see no reason why you could not put a stock on it.

https://vaguntrader.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1972801


https://vaguntrader.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/1971719


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These threads should be merged.

https://youtu.be/ocVVgRFw1oQ


Great video

https://youtu.be/iGdjQ4Iylzo

More info!

More info:

https://youtu.be/RxykIwtLaHM

While great, I don't think it'll go anywhere. At least they're trying but they won't have strong support. These need support from the top, and they don't have it.