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#2223308 - 05/02/25 10:43 AM
ATF answering For Sale ads-maybe? For those that may not know
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42a
Pea shooter
Registered: 03/08/23
Posts: 15
Loc: United States
City or County: Sterling
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ATF answering ads? I am getting that feeling they are still as of March & April 2025. I posted a simple glock for sale about 6 weeks ago. Well get some activity, that turns to be naught. Not just here have it listed on arms list also.
I’ll meet you now, I’m interested/very interested-but when I ask which FFL in the area they want to go to- communication ends. And guess what I get another communication that goes the same way.boom boom boom. That is four or five straight now when I add some questions or comments like person to person is now thru an FFL.They say ok, but never get back to me either with ship to FFL or meet at an FFL.
Maybe some people getting cold feet but my instincts say it is not and target campaign like Randy Weaver...maybe they have not stopped trolling/fishing. Be weary out there just in case! If I'm parnoid let me know. I could say a joke about how buyers scatter, but will stay politically correct for thos of the wrong party.
Edited by 42a (05/02/25 10:44 AM)
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#2223399 - 05/02/25 07:18 PM
Re: ATF answering For Sale ads-maybe? For those that may not know
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bustedknee
Curmudgeon
Registered: 02/17/10
Posts: 1754
Loc: Southwest Va
City or County: Wythe
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Stay alert.
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#2223865 - 05/04/25 07:28 PM
Re: ATF answering For Sale ads-maybe? For those that may not know
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1cold6pack
Stamp Collector
Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 4749
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
City or County: Virginia Beach
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ATF doesn't enforce state law, they enforce federal law, doubt they care about UBC, but they do hunt straw purchaser's.
This site is monitored and recorded 24/7 , believe that!
Flipping for profit is engaging as a non licensed dealer, plenty table flippers still at the shows, just a matter of time, before they get that cease and desist interview and letter, Richard Wince off here was caught and told to stop, but he must of thought he was smarter, hard to believe getting a warning and not having the sense to quit!
"Can't fix stupid, stupid is forever" Ron White
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#2224478 - 05/07/25 10:26 AM
Re: ATF answering For Sale ads-maybe? For those that may not know
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Scolex
Bolt action
Registered: 02/02/14
Posts: 174
Loc: WV Panhandle
City or County: Martinsburg WV
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> Flipping for profit is engaging as a non licensed dealer Right now, the ATF is barred from enforcing any decisions they made under the last administration until AG Pam Bondi and company go through all of them: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/protecting-second-amendment-rights/The "engaged in the business of" final rule definition was rewritten on Apr 10, 2024. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/final-rule-definition-engaged-business-dealer-firearmsThe ATF page even has a caveat admitting they are complying with the enforcement bar order, at least pending the Texas V ATF court case decision. There are task forces that are partnerships between Local LEO offices and Regional ATF offices that work together. So it could be a Local LEO who's a TFO, and they'd be interested in State Law violations. But I've also had a couple people PM me about meeting up for an upper or accessory i'm selling, and then inquiring what firearms I have for sale and wanting to meet up. One was in PA and one was in VA. I am always transparent that i'm in WV, But I'm right near Winchester, and firearms go thru an FFL, especially because I can't purchase a handgun in VA, unless we meet at the FFL and that FFL ships it to my WV FFL, which makes my presence pointless. I dont think they were Feds, I think they were just trying to fly under the radar. But I'm not willing to risk my butt virginity to find out. The WV area has no good VAGT equivalent, which is why i'm still on here.
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#2224538 - 05/07/25 02:42 PM
Re: ATF answering For Sale ads-maybe? For those that may not know
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1cold6pack
Stamp Collector
Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 4749
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
City or County: Virginia Beach
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#2224548 - 05/07/25 02:51 PM
Re: ATF answering For Sale ads-maybe? For those that may not know
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Vtman2013
Bolt action
Registered: 08/27/19
Posts: 137
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Woodstock va
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I have had people messAge me and ask if I still have the stuff I am selling and I say says and then they ask cash and carry or gun shop and I message back gun shop then never hear anything else from them
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