Not sure if this is allowed, but I'm going to put this out there.

I buy n sell a massive amount of reloading equipment, components, presses, etc.

I love coming here on VGT to find deals, swap, trade, sell, with local guys, especially powder and primers.

Unfortunately I continue to see for sale ads, with constant bumps, sometimes for months and months, with no movement.

When this happens, your pricing is too high, we are NOT in covid anymore. Everything has come back down. I just bought 20k primers, shipped to my house for 3.5 cents a piece. $60-$80 per 1k primers are long gone.

I have a ton of stuff that I would love to buy in here, but the pricing is so unreasonable, I dont even want to make a fair offer based on other comps. (Other forums, mewe, brian enos, 1911 forums, ar15.com, etc, etc)

Just my 2 cents, but its not just one person, for some reason, this forum is usually crazy high on pricing.

Hope this helps some of you move some items, and look up pricing on items for comparable sales.

Thanks for my ted talk

Many folks base their pricing on what they see on Gunbroker, but sellers on GB increase their price to cover the fees. So if a VGT seller is basing price on a GB item it will tend to be higher than the " book used" price.

I know what I got!!!!

The forever bumps......5 bumps and lower that price!!

{------- Runs back to bunker!!!

I think you're only seeing the ones that are overpriced or rare, there are lots of things that get posted and bought/traded the first day.

As a potential buyer, I can tell you it is more than just price.
Over-inflated price is first, but followed quickly with insisting on transfers at FFL or so-called "good guy creds." I skip every ad that insists on DL and CC permit, and bill of sale.
I think we all know by now that only valid DL is required and yet many sellers insist on making the transaction more odious.

"Well if it is used in a crime..." blah blah blah. Spare me. You will receive exactly the same scrutiny whether you have a BOS or not. They will still come to you and you will explain that you were at work or 200 miles away or whatever, and that is that. Handing them a BOS does not prevent them from investigating you before dismissing you.

And requiring a carry permit? That is just plain retarded. I can go into any gun store today and buy any rifle or pistol I want without having to show a concealed carry permit. So why do so many private sellers want to add more requirements than are required by the law/FFL dealer? Doesn't take sense and I see many of those ads sit longer than they need to.

ETA. and ads without pictures are really annoying. Unless the item is something I just have to know more about, I skip every ad that doesn't have pictures.
It is 2026 and everybody has a really nice camera these days - selling something without complete descriptions, including clear pictures, is absurd. Links to pictures are fine, but just writing something like "text me for pics" is lazy and I just skip on by and never really consider something that maybe I might have otherwise.

If you want stuff to move price it 15-20 % under market price.

The FFL transfer thing is a no-go unless you have something super hard to get.

I know that alot of people including myself ask to see #1 a VA drivers license for handguns because per current law it is illegal to sell a handgun to people from out of state. #2 a Concealed permit because that prevents people from selling firearms to felons. Imagine if you sold a firearm to a felon or illegal and they turn around and kill people with it. You will be charged and spend some time in jail. #3 A bill of sale protects the buyer and seller so if down the road it gets picked up and traced the seller doesnt get screwed for selling it to a felon, Juvinile, Ect. and that the seller cant try to scam the buyer and report the firearm as stolen and get the buyer a criminal charge.

As someone who has done alot of buisness here if you dont like protecting yourself and others try coming down here to Richmond and go to Mosby, Gilpin, Hillside court and buy a firearm from a street corner where they dont ask as many questions.

If you dont like how people do things the just go to your local gunstore or order online and save your feelings for someone who honestly cares.

If you "are doing a lot of business" and keeping Bill of Sales you are potentially providing evidence to an over zealous anti-gun prosecutor that you are acting as an unlicensed gun dealer.

Why keep records unless you are operating as a business?

No flame, and full respect to poster above:

That is patently false. In the above scenario, you can only be charged for a crime if you have committed a crime; for example selling the gun to a non-VA resident. That is the only legal requirement for legal private party sale. There is no other requirement and there is no culpability for what the buyer does post-sale.

Is it only felons and illegals who might commit crime? What happens if I sell to a guy with "good guy creds" and he turns around and "kills people with it?" Does that mean the seller will also be "charged and spend some time in jail?" There would be no distinction legally between felon and non-felon committing crime with firearm purchased private party.

The better argument is that is makes you, the seller, feel better. That is not required, but at least that argument is defensible. A moral argument, not a legal argument. because that is the only reason people want "good guy creds". The very description says it all (must be a good guy if he passed a background check, right?). It is an emotional argument based on perceived morality, which is every seller's prerogative. And it limits sales.

Suggesting that if you follow the law and sell to someone who demonstrates VA residence (the only legal requirement) makes you somehow liable for post-sale crimes committed by the buyer, that is a bogus argument, full stop. Is there even ONE example of that ever happening, ever? The majority of private party sales NEVER show concealed carry permits; where are the sellers who got jacked up because they didn't see a buyer's concealed carry permit?

Your input or "advice" is a little off the mark-yeah maybe sell at attractive discount off market if all you're selling is black plastic crap still being manufactured which is in fact probably 70% of what's in here. But if you've got genuine collectible guns that are no longer manufactured (first hint-blued steel and walnut stocks) there is no reason to give any 15-20% discount and in fact that would be plain stupid on the seller's part. Just don't price your stuff 15-20% ABOVE the going market rate if you want to move it, which on the flip side is again what probably 70% of the sellers in here do.

Gunbroker prices are based on people across the country bidding up stuff - if you post on a board with 1/50 or less the user base you are unlikely to get top dollar.

Some highly desirable stuff will move if you price it fairly but it is stupid to expect gunbroker prices on this board.

It is also stupid to expect someone to spend an hour or more meeting up w/ a stranger to buy a mixed lot of ammo unless you price it for 20% less than one can order it online and have it delivered to your door.

I don't disagree with what you say with that last comment-but who said anything about Gunbroker and who said anything about odd lots of ammo as I'm very clearly talking guns

Gunbroker is pretty much setting the market price. Pricing stuff 15-20% under median gunbroker price will generally make stuff move though I'll say most stuff worth over $800 is going to move slow on this site no matter how well it is priced.

I feel like I have to clarify a bit. I do not do enough business on here to be a gun dealer. In the few years I've been on here I have bought and sold firearms, parts, and ammo. I am purely saying as someone who buys and sells firearms a few times a year it is what has worked best for me and my interest to be protected.

With full respect to you aswell (I appreciate the discussion), Selling a firearm to a felon or an Illegal is a crime which historicly has been procecuted. For example of the recent terrorist attack in Norfolk (The gun was stolen but even then this is a press release) "Kenya Chapman was charged with false statements and unlawful firearms dealing offenses in a criminal complaint on Friday for his alleged sale of a Glock 44 .22 caliber gun to Mohamed Jalloh, who was previously convicted in 2016 of attempting to provide material support to ISIS -- a federal felony that sent him to prison and barred him from being able to legally purchase or possess firearms". If I sell a firearm to someone who can prove they are not a felon and can legally own a firearm (IE have a Concealed) I did my due diligence and protected myself from potential procecution. I do agree it is a personal decision on the seller from a moral standpoint. As a seller again this is my personal opinion and stance is to be as cautious as I need to be and at the end of the day if that prevents someone from buying from me then that is absolutely fine with me.

On another note I do appreciate the discussion as it outlines what makes this country great in the fact that two people with diffrent points of view can have a discussion civilly. I wish more people in this world could do it but I appreciate you being civil TangBang.