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#931268 - 08/04/15 03:10 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
lue-jones Offline
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Earlier in the shout box, one of many discussions took place surrounding the removal of cursive handwriting from many public school curriculums across the country. It is my position that this is just one of many examples of the perversion of traditional American culture at the hands of cultural Marxism. It was not long before members like eugnostos above, and others, thought this was the funniest thing they had heard in sometime and the rude comments and trolling commenced. A portion of which are highlighted below, though not in their entirety.

Fallacies are defined by google as a mistaken belief, especially one based on an unsound argument. One of many fallacy based arguments include ad hominem positions, which are also defined by google as an argument or reaction directed at a person rather than the position they are maintaining. Such as eugnostos's "feed the troll" comment above. The irony of the comment is not lost upon me, as this fallacy based reaction is devoid of any kind of intelligently designed content and is in itself, what one would expect from a troll.

Below is a quote from the NY Times on the significance of cursive handwriting in the history of American culture.

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Cursive writing is a long-held cultural tradition in this country and should continue to be taught; not just for the sake of tradition, but also to preserve the history of our nation.


Cursive Handwriting is a Cultural Tradition Worth Preserving

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Michael Hairston, president of the Fairfax Education Association, the largest teachers union in the county, called cursive “a dying art.”

Cursive writing is a traditional skill that has been replaced with technology,” Hairston said. “Educators are having to make choices about what they teach with a limited amount of time and little or no flexibility. Much of their instructional time is consumed with teaching to a standardized test.”

Since 2010, 45 states — including Maryland — and the District have adopted the Common Core standards, which do not require cursive instruction but leave it up to the individual states and districts to decide whether they want to teach it. A report the same year by the Miami-Dade public school system found that cursive instruction has been slowly declining nationwide since the 1970s.


Cursive Handwriting is Disappearing from our Schools

Cultural Marxism is the gradual process of destroying tradition, individuality, law etc. in order to re-assemble the ultimate outcome into a Communist utopia. Above, we see that cursive writing is a long standing tradition in this country, one which is gradually falling out of the favor and replaced with common core curriculums adopted throughout much of the United States.

When you have the removal of an American tradition such as cursive handwriting throughout much of the public school curriculum, you're indeed talking about the circumvention of traditional American culture which is very much a hallmark of the definition of cultural Marxism itself.

The same can be said about the revisionist history of the Civil War and the current political climate of demonizing the Confederate flag. Which is itself a long standing tenent of American culture which is being undermined in the mainstream media and made into a subject of national debate. Or the teaching of homosexuality as fine and acceptable in our public school systems while marginalizing Christians both legally and socially should they preach the word of god. Christianity is a long standing tradition in the United States, with churches found on a regular basis in nearly every community throughout the country. Much of the religion itself, its ideals, system of belief make up what it means to be an American and very much defines us as a nation.

Its also a Constitutionally protected right, yet we see it marginalized and undermined in todays society with very little being done by our politicians to protect its sanctity. There are untold numbers of examples to point to of cultural Marxism in the United States, yet we have so many Americans as highlighted below who refuse to see the writing on the wall. Its all one big joke to them as our culture is being destroyed one element at a time. Its shameful to see, yet unfortunately not to be unexpected considering how we even got here in the first place. Which is through not paying attention to what is has been incrementally pushed upon us for decades now. And will surely only grow worse as time passes by.



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x] lue-jones: it use to be taboo to be gay, now you're expected accept it as normal and if you preach against it can expect legal and social back lash. The writing is on the wall
Dasu: so should we go back to using old style quills for writing too?
Dasu: i agree with about everything else. but just because the same folks are doing it doesnt mean its necessarily connected. technology is changing how we communicate.
Dasu: the problem is that there are public schools. and we are expected to pay for indoctrinating kids.
Dasu: the idea of ownership of kids, and the responsibility to care for them is gone.
[x] lue-jones: I dont really care who agree's or disagree's with me, I've got an entire thread on the subject with academic sources to back up my assertions. When all I see is internet trolls using fallacies, ad hominem positions and red herrings I just write them off
Tyeo098: "Buy me" [ Click Me ]
Dasu: ok, ill agree to disagree on this.
[x] lue-jones: The more people who know there is a communist insurgency taking place in the United States, the better. Whether they want to write it off as crazy or not. Most are truly ignorant, I will definitely agree with that
Shotz: stopped in to say hey and cruise the SB for a bit .. looks like I'll go ahead and take a walk outside instead..
Dasu: yeah get yourself all hot and sweaty
eugnostos: yup, he is on one of his rants again
scythefwd: common shotz.. lets find communism in every day occurances and behind every blade of grass.. its the new thing to do
Shotz: I just had to scroll up a bit ... there's now a conspiracy to eliminate cursive writing?
Dasu: ive got a lot of ants around. communists, all.
Dasu: who was it who wrote of the ants being fascist?
eugnostos: They are the root source of the communist insurgency in the USA.
scythefwd: its been getting dropped from the currucilum
eugnostos: I saw it on the internet.
scythefwd: its so poorly taught now that teachers have to write up on the boards for SAT takers so they can right the affirmation statemtent in their own hand on their tests
scythefwd: because the SAT says to write it, not print it lol
Shotz: and this is evidence of??
scythefwd: communism

Shotz: oh. .. .. ok?
scythefwd: or so we've been informed

Shotz: well, to talk guns again .. I may be coming in to one of these in a few weeks scy - [ Click Me ]
eugnostos: According to Lue and his list of Boykins elements of Marxist/Communist Insurgency, probably #6 on the list lmao
scythefwd: its all part of the master plan of the homosexuals (say that with a backwoods alabama draw please) to turn er'y one pinko?

Shotz: it's so ugly I'm in love with it lol
scythefwd: free floating, nice. Hows it lock the action
scythefwd: ? Use a v-block bedding block?


For more information on this subject, please see the links below:

Communist indoctrination in Common Core

Colorado.edu - Is Common Core Communism?

Education Dictates More Like Communist Core

Common Core Designed to End White Privilege

Video: Dr. Pook wrote Common Core to End White Privilege

Christians Warned to Pull Kids from Public School

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#931284 - 08/04/15 04:05 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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The DNC Chair was recently on MSNBC with Chris Matthews and was asked to describe the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist. Now I know that this thread is about Communism in the U.S. but I believe it was none other than Lenin who stated that Communism was socialism in a hurry. No quotes because I am not sure of the exact wording and am too lazy to look it up. In any event, Wasserman-Schultz (DNC Chair) did not answer the question. Matthews thought there was a great difference however I don't believe there is one iota difference between them.

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#931388 - 08/04/15 08:30 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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Keep up the good work Lue! I am startled at how far these darn commies are wiling to go! First they went after the rebel flag, and now it's cursive handwriting. If we aren't careful they might go after our NO 2 Pencils!

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#931405 - 08/04/15 09:20 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: toughtom12]
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No toughtom. You'll be able to keep the #2 Pencils. You'll just have to be careful what you write with it. #2 Pencils can be dangerous, you know.


Edited by aka-cyberman (08/04/15 09:30 PM)
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#931450 - 08/04/15 11:02 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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The marxists can be quite subversive. I'm not sure they are eliminating cursive writing due to marxism, or just good old fashioned government ineptitude, but it's pretty sad today's kids can't read the written language.

I think reading about China's red cultural revolution would do a lot of people good. There are a lot of parallels to what is happening here.

The marxists have won the cultural war. They own the mass media and the educational institutions. People listen to the TV, radio, and government institutions like it's pure gospel.
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#931495 - 08/05/15 07:46 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: Paratus]
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Originally Posted By: toughtom12
Keep up the good work Lue! I am startled at how far these darn commies are wiling to go! First they went after the rebel flag, and now it's cursive handwriting. If we aren't careful they might go after our NO 2 Pencils!


I must admit, this is a convincing argument. Obviously trumping the parallels to common core, cultural Marxism and Communism previously discussed above. And here I was thinking intellectual dwarfism and anti-American sentiment must be contagious at this website. I stand corrected.

When you have an attempted federal take over of the education system with a Communist based idealogy such as common core, which among other things, does not include cursive handwriting as part of the curriculum, obviously a part of traditional American culture is being circumvented thus leading into the notion of cultural Marxism.

The public school system itself, being one of Marx's 10 planks of Communism. Which would go a long way in explaining why common core is designed the way that it is.

Revisionist history is also taught in our public school system circumventing documented facts about such iconic American cultural heritage pieces of history as the Civil War. Something toughtom above subscribes too, which can be seen here.

Our national identity itself has always been shaped by the education system and the fundamental American principles which were taught in it. Now, we see any number of changes being made in the way our children are educated and it doesn't seem to phase the majority in the least bit. People seem to struggle to understand how a national identity is formed, what actually makes ones culture what it is and how all of this ties into what it means to be an American.

In the future we will have a very different generation of "Americans" than we once had. In many ways, elements of this thread already attest to this fact alone. And the foundations of this change have been and will continue to be laid in our own generation with few understanding the implications of what is being done. These are our patriotic Americans, too pre-occupied with keeping up with the Kardashians, professional football and anything else but what really matters.

I can not understand it, but luckily we have members all to willing to display their lack of concern for our country by trolling threads just like this one with poorly thought out responses, fallacy based rebuttals and numerous strawman, ad hominem laced comments presented to show anyone in the future how we arrived at the destination before us.

Originally Posted By: aka-cyberman
No toughtom. You'll be able to keep the #2 Pencils. You'll just have to be careful what you write with it. #2 Pencils can be dangerous, you know.


Nice post, so many prefer to put their head in the sand and leave their rear end exposed while making rude and ignorant comments. If only more Americans were capable of understanding the direction we've been headed into for sometime now. And it goes well beyond censorship, if only that was the greatest threat Communism presented.

Originally Posted By: Mizzle
The marxists can be quite subversive. I'm not sure they are eliminating cursive writing due to marxism, or just good old fashioned government ineptitude, but it's pretty sad today's kids can't read the written language.

I think reading about China's red cultural revolution would do a lot of people good. There are a lot of parallels to what is happening here.

The marxists have won the cultural war. They own the mass media and the educational institutions. People listen to the TV, radio, and government institutions like it's pure gospel.


The mainstream media is indeed a propaganda tool for the Marxist which have infiltrated numerous elements of our society. We have many at this forum alone who struggle to see what is happening before our very eyes, but they are not alone. We have millions of Americans drinking the Marxist kool-aid unfortunately.

Originally Posted By: Paratus
The DNC Chair was recently on MSNBC with Chris Matthews and was asked to describe the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist. Now I know that this thread is about Communism in the U.S. but I believe it was none other than Lenin who stated that Communism was socialism in a hurry. No quotes because I am not sure of the exact wording and am too lazy to look it up. In any event, Wasserman-Schultz (DNC Chair) did not answer the question. Matthews thought there was a great difference however I don't believe there is one iota difference between them.


Excellent post paratus, I caught this a few days ago and I am glad you presented it in the thread. The relationship between Socialism, Marxism and Communism have previously been discussed in this thread and are forever terms which will be linked together. So you're in the right place.

Tongue Tied: DNC can not explain the difference between democrats and socialists

Socialism is defined by Merriam Websites as:

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any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods


Socialism

Interestingly, it is also referred to as a transitional development between Capitalism and Communism. As discussed previously above, recent headlines about the Democrat Chair being unable to differentiate between Democrats and Socialist made headlines throughout the country.

Unfortunately, most Americans are not familiar enough with terms such as Socialism, Communism, Marxism etc. to understand that the terms are not mutually exclusive and in fact are so closely assoicated with each other that to attempt to define them as anything but related seems suspiciously deceptive or deliberately obtuse .

Communism is defined by Merriam-Websters as:

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a way of organizing a society in which the government owns the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) and there is no privately owned property


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a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics


Communism

As we can see above, both Socialism and Communism are characterized by the state ownership of production. While thinking about the differences of the two earlier, I found it interesting that self described Socialist institutions like the University of Idaho were playing word games, academic semantics, between the differentiation of the two terms and spent sometime myself considering the differences between community ownership and state ownership.

The state is of course a representative of the community (collective), so conversely any community controlled entity must have a state to administer the communitys will. Which is what the government ultimately is, an administrator of the community, of the people.

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Socialism

Most generally, socialism refers to state ownership of common property, or state ownership of the means of production. A purely socialist state would be one in which the state owns and operates the means of production. However, nearly all modern capitalist countries combine socialism and capitalism.


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Communism

Most generally, communism refers to community ownership of property, with the end goal being complete social equality via economic equality. Communism is generally seen by communist countries as an idealized utopian economic and social state that the country as a whole is working toward; that is to say that pure communism is the ideal that the People’s Republic of China is (was?) working toward. Such an ideal often justifies means (such as authoritarianism or totalitariansim) that are not themselves communist ideals.


University of Idaho.edu

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#931588 - 08/05/15 12:16 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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I am seeing this group behind a lot of the protesting and pot stirring that has been going on as of late.

http://revcom.us/
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#931651 - 08/05/15 04:00 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: boltactionfan]
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Hi Bolt,
You're absolutely right, when you visit the link above the first thing you're met with is the quote below.

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There is the potential for something of unprecedented beauty to arise out of unspeakable ugliness: Black people playing a crucial role in putting an end, at long last, to this system which has, for so long, not just exploited but dehumanized, terrorized and tormented them in a thousand ways—putting an end to this in the only way it can be done—by fighting to emancipate humanity, to put an end to the long night in which human society has been divided into masters and slaves, and the masses of humanity have been lashed, beaten, raped, slaughtered, shackled and shrouded in ignorance and misery.

Bob Avakian, Chairman, Revolutionary Communist Party, USA


We're seeing race baiting throughout the country, with various groups supporting, encouraging and helping to ignite social unrest across the nation. We've had communist groups working the community centers, churches, neighborhoods and similar venues in places like Ferguson and Baltimore to instigate trouble and it will only continue to grow in severity.

Many Americans refuse to acknowledge what is occurring in this country, whether through cognitive dissonance or outright ignorance. Its all one big joke to the majority and those who shine a spot light on the issue are marginalized for pointing out the obvious. Most simply do not care that a growing movement is being organized to alter the foundation of our land.

Below are some related headlines to the division occurring in our country. We've repeatedly seen the actions of law enforcement come under nation wide scrutiny, we're also seeing a sustained marginalization of white society.

Federal Government Hires Comedian to Deliver Anti-White Tirade

Virginia DMV Recalls Confederate License Plates

Nation of Islam Leader: We Must Kill Those Who Kill Us. Stalk and Kill Them (Whitey)

Ambushed St. Louis Officer: God Told Me to Put on Vest

Memphis Cop Killer Turns Himself In

Officer beaten unconscious with own weapon

Federal Authorities to Help Baltimore Police as Homicides Spike

(May) Baltimore Murders Spike as Arrest Plunge

Baltimore Prosecutors Withheld Evidence in Freddie Gray Case

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#932767 - 08/08/15 11:12 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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“This is not Ferguson, this is not South Charleston,” Durham said.” And I refuse to allow the community to make and paint a picture of our officers that we have a bunch of rogue officers here who are out of control. That is not the case.”


Richmond, Virginia: This is not Ferguson

We live in dangerous times, cities throughout the country are essentially a powder keg ready to explode at any moment. All it will take is the proper spark for it to go off. This is a result of many factors, most notably a race baiting mainstream media and a Presidential administration that offers moral and ideological support that further encourages the instigation of social unrest.

The above story details a recent shootout in Richmond in which a suspect was killed and an officer wounded in an exchange of gun fire. With the numerous incidences of social unrest across the country in recent years, communities across the United States have watched the demonstrations, riots and utter chaos unravel and it is fresh on everyones minds when any similar situation takes place in their own area's of operation.

I would not be surprised to see a situation similar to Ferguson develop in Richmond, though I do not believe this particular situation will get to that point. But it does demonstrate the fear instilled in cities and police departments across the country to pre-emptively come out and attempt to calm the situation before it gets out of hand.

Heaven forbid similar situations continue to happen in the area, because all it will take is the right circumstances and some outside influence from agitator propagandists/"community organizers" to produce the spark that sets the powder keg off. People in the area are already asking questions, rumors are swirling and it has the city on edge. This is the story in cities across the United States as division continues to spread and people look for reasons to explode.

Its almost a guarantee that similar situations to Ferguson, Baltimore, New York and other area's prominent in the news will continue to unravel. The template is already easily deciphered by those paying attention to see how the Communist plan to exploit tragedy of any degree to produce their desired results.

It is my opinion this Presidential administration is playing a significant role in places like Ferguson and Baltimore where situations are allowed to get out of hand. We're seeing officials turn a blind eye as violence escalates, information supressed which could go a long way in calming the situation(s) all for the purpose of creating further division.

Change is in the air and a majority of Americans refuse to see the writing on the wall, including many of our own members at this forum who believe everything is as normal in this country. So many are afraid of being labeled fringe and any number of discrediting terms such as conspiracy theorist, racists etc. while they watch the house burn down. Trouble is here people and stories like the one above testify to the fact we live in very dangerous times.

Additional news throughout the country:

Ferguson Protests: Police vehicle has windows shot out

Ferguson Protests: Man critically injured after opening fire on officers.

Pravda: Remarkable amount of gunfire in Ferguson

Ferguson protesters loot stores, chant 'kill the police'

Ferguson protester safe house looted (lol)

Ferguson protester shoots fellow protester

Major Ferguson group openly touts socialist connections

State of Emergency Declared in Ferguson, AgitProp Deray McKesson present

Black Lives Matter Supporter shoots 8 Black People in Head

St. Louis cab driver arrested for threatening to kill man because he was white

Trump: Political Correctness is killing this country

Youth killed by police during robbery, leftist claim racism

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#933630 - 08/10/15 06:09 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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We are in the Twilight Zone, there is little other way to put it. We have the Attorney General essentially giving a nod and a wink to the protesters that the Obama administration approves of their actions while condemning the violence.

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As we have seen over the recent months and years, not only does violence obscure any message of peaceful protest, it places the community, as well as the officers who seek to protect it, in harm’s way,’’ Lynch said. "Incidents of violence, such as we saw last night, are contrary to both that message, along with everything that all of us, including this group, have worked to achieve over the past year.”


We've had the Justice Department and the White House themselves supporting these protests while admonishing law enforcement for quite some time now. What exactly has the Justice Department worked so hard for? Encouraging these protesters while scalding law enforcement? What kind of message does it send to these protesters when their cause is being supported by the Attorney General? When Obama himself invites them to the White House and encourages these protesters to stay on course.

In the same article cited above, we once again see Agitator Propagandists Deray Mckesson present at the protests. The same Deray Mckesson present in the Baltimore riots, the trouble which occurred in South Carolina, Wisconsin and New York. All of this previously documented elsewhere in the thread, one would think law enforcement would be well aware of 'Johnny on the Spot' and start to put two and two together here. Apparently its not unusual at all for a man to have the kind of finances, time and where with all to travel from hot spot to hot spot encouraging social unrest.

It is either complete incompetence coming from the Attorney General or a purposeful attempt to talk out both sides of her mouth with this latest statement. Encouraging the protests, yet condemning the violence is counter productive and is essentially giving these protesters the green light to continue on with their activities.

While I was watching Pravda (CNN) today, I found it mildly amusing they were attempting to seperate the protesters from the criminals causing mayhem in Ferguson. As if the two can not be one in the same, and the violence being reported in Ferguson is not related to the protests themselves. While I am sure there are plenty of 'useful idiots' at these protests, the fact remains the violence and protests are directly correlated with each other.

This is some heavy propaganda going on here.

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#933705 - 08/10/15 09:06 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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+1
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#933887 - 08/11/15 11:39 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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+ 1

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http://fergusonresponse.tumblr.com


http://www.glennbeck.com/2015/03/17/you-...son-protesters/



.....and then you have this >>>>>>



matches and dry tinder

Heavily armed ‘Oath Keepers’ group in Ferguson
http://fox2now.com/2015/08/11/heavily-armed-oath-keepers-in-ferguson/


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#934003 - 08/11/15 04:57 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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#934206 - 08/12/15 08:13 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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How much is true in the news reports and how much is propaganda is just a guess.
This much seems real

Oath Keeper with a gun= no problems

Underage punk with a stolen gun,felonious rap sheet= criminal activity

Go figure. Even when one of their own gets jumped, robbed and beaten by a gang the mainstream barely reports it. Just stick to the official talking points.
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#934222 - 08/12/15 09:13 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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https://www.splcenter.org/

patriots are now terrorists. anyone that stands up for their rights are antigovernment. the Constitution has been buried by our politicians

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#934223 - 08/12/15 09:14 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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look at some of the issues they consider anti gov or extremism, oath keepers is listed as anti gov


Edited by yugritin (08/12/15 09:27 AM)

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#934381 - 08/12/15 05:06 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: yugritin]
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Originally Posted By: yugritin
https://www.splcenter.org/

patriots are now terrorists. anyone that stands up for their rights are antigovernment. the Constitution has been buried by our politicians


It's the SPLC, even the Dems don't take them seriously. Sure they get money from Soros and the rest of the commie left when they need a 'hit' on someone or some group, but they've become a joke.

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#936108 - 08/17/15 12:45 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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Discrediting the opposition. 'The Oathkeepers' are definitely coming under fire lately, and the divisiveness that clouds our nation only serves those who are behind the race baiting in the mainstream media and the "change" that is gaining momentum nationwide. There are enough members at our website alone who are indifferent to the anti-American direction the country is taking that it should come to none of us as a surprise that a significant portion of the firearm community actually believe 'the Oathkeepers' are a negative thing.

Consider the following article making the rounds online:

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Recently several “Oath Keepers” decided to make sh*t worse in Ferguson, Missouri. Their arrival generated a flood of negative publicity, reinforced the widespread perception that we gun owners are unstable lunatics looking for a fight, and heightened already sky-high tensions between police and protestors. According to the Washington Post, the Oath Keepers said they were in Ferguson to “protect someone who worked for the Web site Infowars.com.” Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me that adding heavily-armed conspiracy theorists into a volatile near-riot doesn’t exactly help.


Duty not to make s**t worse

I personally see 'the Oathkeepers' as a positive thing, though I am sure there are those who do not do their cause justice. The proverbial bad apple in the batch. But overall, 'the Oathkeepers' appear to be doing more good than harm from my perspective at least. Especially when you look at the other side of the coin. Which is rioting, looting, violence and even murder.

And when you start to see information which suggests the police and even National Guard are standing down or ordered away from area's they are obviously needed one has to presume some kind of presence is justified when local, state and federal authorities refuse to do anything. Otherwise, good and innocent people, businesses and people's livelyhoods are left to the mercy of chance and the unruley.

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FERGUSON, Mo. — Police were present again on the streets of Ferguson, Mo., Saturday morning after the Missouri State Highway Patrol reportedly ordered officers from St. Louis County to ‘stand down’ as looters attacked businesses overnight.


Police Stand Down

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Police told Fox 2 News that its officers were at the Ferguson Market earlier when looters showed up, but were ordered to “Stand down” by Missouri State Highway Patrol incident commanders at the scene and basically withdrew and allowed the looters to have their way with the store.


Police Ordered To Stand Down

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Inquiring minds want to know why the Missouri National Guard wasn’t deployed in Ferguson Monday night. Governor Jay Nixon called a state of emergency in the St. Louis area last week and Guard members were in place last night at key locations in St. Louis when the grand jury decision not to indict police officer Darrell Wilson was announced. Yet no National Guard troops were deployed to Ferguson – obviously Ground Zero and needing the most protection.


MO National Guard Order to Stand Down

Together we stand, divided we fall. And unfortunately, the United States is a divided nation. Nearly as divided as it has ever been. We've seen similar orders in Baltimore to stand down as violence escalates far beyond being able to control it, and I would guess we will see similar orders in the future as the melting pot begins to boil over. This divisiveness that saturates the country can only benefit those who continue to usher in "change" while setting the American public up to take the bait hook, line and sinker.

We've already seen a widely accepted movement for police departments to adopt body camera's, officers pulling back from high crime area's as homicides spike and even police officers so fearful of doing the right thing that they themselves become victims. If these numerous incidents like Ferguson and Baltimore continue as they have thus far, at some point you can bet an incident or incidents will happen that give the communists exactly what they want. And that is an excuse to justify more "change."

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#937252 - 08/19/15 10:53 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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The shooting that left a black suspect dead drew protests, with many of the roughly 150 people who gathered at the scene hurling obscene gestures and expletives at investigators and questioning the police use of deadly force. Some chanted "Black Lives Matter," a mantra used a year ago after the police shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson.


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No officers were injured. Their races were not disclosed.


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"Another youth down by the hands of police," Dex Dockett, 42, who lives nearby, told a reporter. "What could have been done different to de-escalate rather than escalate? They (police) come in with an us-against-them mentality. You've got to have the right kind of cops to engage in these types of neighborhoods."


St. Louis Police Kill Suspect

Protestors Fill Streets

Vet robbed twice, arson, protests, interstate blocked

Suspect shot in the back

A familiar story line seems to be playing out all too often, where the police are questioned in everything they do and the race card is pulled at every opportunity. And of course, we have the mainstream media focusing in on race and making sure the rest of the country focus's in on it too. As I have previously mentioned, cities across the United States are essentially powder kegs that can explode at any time now. The media and those behind it have divided the country to the point where nearly anything can be labeled an injustice and an excuse found to make a bad situation much worse.

A growing movement seems to be a foot where being caucasion is a problem. Its playing out all too often and I would be willing to bet its a sentiment that will only continue to grow in regularity as the mainstream media marginalizes caucasions at any chance given. And we have far too many Americans who harbor and encourage the "white guilt" syndrome and further encourage its proliferation.

Once again I am reminded of Rhodesia and South Africa, a subject most Americans are completely ignorant about and the Communist mainstream media and elements of our government have pre-emptively set the stage for anyone connecting the dots to be a potential domestic terrorist. Discrediting the enemy, a hall mark of Marxist insurgency as laid out by retired Lt. General Jerry Boykin and I am getting the sense that the enemy is all too often becoming white males. And at the moment, we're seeing law enforcement drawing the brunt of the storm.

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#938290 - 08/22/15 04:26 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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I recently picked up a book entitled, "Balkan Ghosts" by Robert D. Kaplan which offers an outstanding insight into Communism. Among the numerous jewels of information contained within is an account on just how far the Communists were willing to go to collect information about the citizens of Romania.

In chapter 5, Athenee Palace, Bucharest, page 82, paragraph 3 we find:

Inside the hotel were more changes. Beyond the collonade of Corinthian pillars, the Communist 1950s began, with a floomy, serpentire stair case and purple wall-to-wall carpeting. The Romanian intelligence service, the Securitatae, assisted by the KGB, had turned the Athenee Palace into an intelligence-gathering factory. The Securitatae tapped the telephones, installed microphones under the restaurant and bar tables, and in all the rooms. The hotel manager was a Securitatae colonel, and all of the 300 employee's were Securitatae agents, down to the charwomen who photographed every piece of paper in the guests rooms.

When I read that piece of information, nearly instantaneously I thought about the numerous information gathering services, devices and methods common in todays American society and how this information is being shared with countless unknown entities to develop marketing strategies and files on nearly every American in the United States today. Not long ago, one of our most respected members at the forum started a thread on the new Windows 10 program recently released and some of the comments from our membership about the ability of numerous nefarious entities to intercept perceived private communications from our electronic devices were particulary interesting.

Normally, when we think about the Communists in the United States there is a natural reaction to appoint them to the left leaning political organizations but I have for sometime maintained the position that both the left and the right are cut from the same cloth. That is to say, they are two hands of the same body and are essentially one in the same. A good example of this would be recent comments Jeb Bush made about the necessity for the National Security Agency to have even broader power than they already have.

From numerous mainstream media sources we find the NSA's ability to gather intelligence on American citizens to be common knowledge and far reaching in scope. Information is power, as retired Lt. General Jerry Boykin has pointed out a hallmark of Marxist Insurgency is discrediting the opposition and a great way to discredit the opposition is by obtaining potentially embarassing information and releasing it to the public in order to undermine their credibility and to marginalize them and their positions whenever possible.

Say for example, you're implementing laws and social engineering change within a given country and you know there are those who oppose the direction you wish to stir the country in too. Lets use Christians as a wild example. One could use information to undermine Christians in order to pre-emptively discredit them and their positions (family values) to give you the advantage that you seek.

Or for another example, you've pre-emptively labeled those who oppose Communist rule as domestic terrorists. If you could target leaders in the anti-Communist movement as those who watch interracial, gay midget clown porn based on their internet search history you could go a long way in marginalizing their message as you march forward with your new green is the new red political agenda all that much easier.


NSA Surveillance Exposed

New Released NSA Surveillance Information Draws Support and Ire

Ashley Madison Hack Ruined my Life

Ashley Madison Hack: Whats Included in the Data Dump

Ashley Madison Files Published

Josh Duggar After Ashley Madison Hack: Hypocrit

Family Values Activist Josh Duggar had Ashley Madison Account

The Duggars Religious Lifestyle

Is Josh Duggar the Biggest Family Values Hypocrit Ever? Not Even Close

Pastor Outed From Ashley Madison Hack Kills Self

400 Church Leaders Resign after Ashley Madison Hack

Ashley Madison Reveals Hypocrisy

Too Many Christians Caught using Ashley Madison

Homegrown Extremists Deadlier than Jihadists

Securitatae Warns of Domestic Terrorist Threat

Smart Phones and Spyware

NSA Testing Smart Phone Swipe Technology

NSA Aims to Identify Citizens from their Key Strokes

NSA Can Hack Most Smart Phones

Our Lives are Full of Listening Devices

Windows 10 worst feature now installing on Win7 and Win8

Your Samsung TV is Eaves Dropping on your Private Conversations

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#938360 - 08/22/15 07:52 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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You're ou there lue, but I love it. You keep nailing it IMHO. Keep up the good work. They have files on us now.
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#940099 - 08/27/15 02:56 AM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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Killer Vester Flanagan sent out a manifesto on Wednesday morning.

The former reporter mentions the Charleston church shooting. He wanted to incite a race war.


Flanagan wanted to incite a race war

Racially Charged

Race War: Manifesto Released

On-Air Killer Wanted a Race War

Gun man cites grievances

The headline making national and international news today was the shooting that occurred in our own backyard here in Virginia. What should come to nobodies surprise is the fact the Communist controlled mainstream media (Pravda) is focusing on gun control instead of the obvious fact it was a racially motivated attack on whites.

Perhaps that is because the mainstream media itself is complicit in dividing the nation with their near constant misrepresented reporting of "white cop shoots unarmed black teen." A phrase which has become so common place in recent years that one could easily make the mistake of believing grave injustices are being carried out against African Americans. When nothing could be further from the truth.

We have a mainstream media accepted by the general public at large as infallable. If it is reported by CNN, MSNBC,Fox etc. as true, it must be true. With little question ever as to the validity of what we're being told. In fact, to suggest anything else but what is reported to the masses is regularly regarded as a conspiracy theory. We live in a world where thinking for yourself is scoffed at. We live in a world where we are all expected to believe what someone else has decided for us is true or you're some kind of fringe, tin foil hat wearing lunatic. Its utterly insane the paradigm that the majority subscribe too. Yet its a reality.

In a world where the mainstream media reports near constant misrepresentation of unequal and unfair treatment of African Americans at the hands of law enforcement; which culminates in mass rioting, looting, arson, vandalism, robbery, violence and murder we have a racially motivated attack against two white journalist and what is the mainstream media's call to arms?

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Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (C) stated, “there are too many guns in the hands of people who should not have guns. This is why I’ve long advocated for background checks” in an interview on the shooting of a reporter and a cameraman on Washington DC’s WTOP radio, portions of which were broadcast on Wednesday’s “CNN Newsroom.”


McAuliffe touts Background Checks

Disarming America even further.

The path that America is being lead down is insanity. And the sad, unfortunate truth is most Americans will eat this story line up hook, line and sinker. The media is itself the driving force behind the division in this country and their answer to the violence is to disarm Americans through the implementation of Universal Background Checks (UBC's).

A backdoor method of gun control to create a paper trail on nearly every firearm bought and sold in the United States today and to criminalize millions of Americans who will have their second amendment rights neutralized through the health care provisions inherent to UBC legislation. The end game is confiscation of firearms. And once our right to defend yourself, your family and way of life is gone the result will be the death of our nation. Cultural Genocide.

When the media whips up mass violence on a regular basis through misrepresenated propaganda which culminates in the widespread destruction of cities across the United States and when their answer to that violence is to take away the American citizens right to defend themselves one has to seriously stop and consider what the end game is here?

It is nothing short than the social engineering of our society to become something different. A place where life as we know it today no longer exists. A place where "Americans" are now much different than they once were before. And if you look at who is behind the violence and their track record throughout history you need to ask yourself if this is who you want running your country?

Other news from around the country:

Half U.S. Immigrants on Public Assistance at Tax Payer expense

Unions and LGBT organizations gave money to Communist Party USA

Black Activist Call for Lynching and Hanging of Whites, Cops.

Texas Sheriffs Deputy Assassinated

Deputy Executed after Local Rally Promised to Off Pigs

Open Season: Sheriff Clarke says Obama Started this War on Police

Cop Killer Was Black Lives Matter Supporter

Couple arrested for torture, murder of Police Officer

Wrong Hood: Couple Stomps on Girl for Being in the Wrong Neighborhood

Mob Loots St. Louis Beauty Supply Store

One of Obama's favorite sayings has roots in Marxism

Washington State University: White Students to Defer to Non-White Students

Open Season On Whites and Cops

Media covers for BLM by Ignoring their Violence

Democratic National Committee Passes Resolution Supporting Black Lives Matter

Black Lives Matter Reject Democratic National Committee Support

Pigs in a Planket Chant from B.L.M after DNC Passes Resolution of Support

Communists Arrested for Shoot the Pig in the Head Graffiti

The Media Owns this Tragedy

Virginia Shooting Victim and Father are Actors

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#943318 - 09/03/15 11:20 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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"History doesnt repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme." - Mark Twain

The persecution of Christians continues in the United States as the Communists are social engineering "change" through cultural Marxism in this country to redefine what it means to be an American. The house is burning down.

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Kentucky clerk ordered to jail for refusing to issue gay marriage license

ASHLAND, Ky. — For a moment there, it looked as though Kim Davis might stay out of jail.

The 49-year-old Kentucky county clerk, who grabbed the national spotlight by refusing in the face of multiple court orders to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, had been given an out.

She could remain a free woman, the judge said, if she gave permission to her deputies to sign the certificates in her stead. The judge gave her time to consult with her attorneys.

But when the court reconvened after a short recess Thursday, ­Davis was not in her seat. An attorney explained that Davis, an Apostolic Christian, “does not grant her authority nor would allow any employee to issue those licenses.”

And so Davis consigned herself to jail, sparking a fresh round of legal wrangling and political calculation in the face of the most audacious display of defiance on the issue of same-sex marriage since the Supreme Court declared in June that gay couples had a constitutional right to wed.


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“I stand with Kim Davis. Unequivocally,” Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) said in a statement. “I stand with every American that the Obama Administration is trying to force to choose between honoring his or her faith or complying with a lawless court decision.”


Clerk Ordered to Jail for Refusing Same Sex Marriage Licences

Justice Scalia: Sign Licenses or Find a New Job

Sign or Find a New Job

Gods Authority

Communist Discredit Kim Davis's Ideology

Supremacy Clause

The Question of States Rights

Supreme Court Upholds Obamacare

Ohio to Amend Constitution to Outlaw Obamacare Mandates

Ted Cruz on Obamacare and Gay Marriage

MSNBC: Iowa, W. Va and Nullification of Obamacare - Civil War

Supreme Court Makes Same Sex Marriage a Right

Supreme Court Rules States Must Abide by Same Sex Ruling

Kim Davis, Sanctuary Cities and the Supremacy Clause

Can A Texas County Clerk Refuse to Issue a Gay Marriage License? Its Complicated

Civil War: States Right

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The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools. Actions toward particular religions, however, were determined by State interests, and most organized religions were never outlawed.


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Members of the church hierarchy were jailed or forced out, their places taken by docile clergy, many of whom had ties with the KGB.


Library of Congress - .gov

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After the 1917 Communist revolution, “inakomysliashie” (people who did not accept the changes) were not exiled or put into prison any more, they simply vanished. In the best of cases they were placed in Gulags (isolated hard labour concentration camps): otherwise they were instantly executed. In the 20th century, Stalin eliminated the majority of non-Orthodox believers. Some Orthodox priests became communists, which allowed them to still keep some churches open. These priests worked closely with the KGB (State Security Service). They reported everyone who wanted to be baptized or to baptize a child: those involved could then easily lose their jobs or be taken to a labour camp without any further investigation.

The Soviets organized widespread anti-religious propaganda. They were especially against Evangelicals and Baptists (the word ‘Baptist’ still carries very strong negative connotations for many Russians).Communism severely persecuted any signs of Biblical faith. It was absolutely forbidden to speak about faith, God, or the Bible:


Christianity in Russia

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#943984 - 09/05/15 06:38 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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There is absolutely no question in my mind whether or not the United States is moving into a Communist direction. This entire thread serves to lay any doubts to rest. Whether you, the individual reader wants to accept this information or not is your decision to make.

The real questions involve how has this come about and why?

In an attempt to explain exactly what is going on, putting all of the pieces together leads me to one of the oldest conspiracy theories I can remember reading about on the internet and I am inclined to subscribe to this theory based on all of the information I have seen thus far and more.

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This Agenda is a plan of action for people, planet and prosperity. It also seeks to strengthen universal peace in larger freedom. We recognise that eradicating poverty in all its forms and dimensions, including extreme poverty, is the greatest global challenge and an indispensable requirement for sustainable development. All countries and all stakeholders, acting in collaborative partnership, will implement this plan.


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They seek to realize the human rights of all and to achieve gender equality and the empowerment of all women and girls. They are integrated and indivisible and balance the three dimensions of sustainable development: the economic, social and environmental.


Sustainable Development

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The People’s Republic of China is the #1 greenhouse gas emitter (having only recently raced past the U.S. to the top of this list), and last week the country’s government ordered a huge increase in coal production. Nonetheless, the Middle Kingdom is “doing it right” when it comes to climate change, according to Christiana Figueres, the top climate diplomat at the United Nations.


UN: Communism is the key to fighting Global Warming

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A report from PJ Media beautifully illustrates how the climate-change contingent is aligned with Communists who hope to change the American system.


Communist Agenda Behind Climate Change

Obama to Alaska to Shine Light on Climate Change

Obama Takes Climate Message to Alaska

If you've been watching the news lately its been hard to miss the coverage surrounding the migration of immigrants into Europe, many of whom are from war torn and poverty stricken regions of the world.

Why Europes migration crisis is surging

Turkish PM lashes out at "Christian Fortress" Europe

Muslim Nations Refuse Syrian Refugee's

Germany and Austria Open Borders for Migrants

Thousands March against Immigration in Germany

Dave Hodges on Sharia Law and Immigration

U.S to accept 10,000 Syrian Refugee's

John Kerry: Number of Refugee's Could Rise to 100,000 in Future

Obama Wont Let Syrian Christians into U.S.

Syrian Christians Denied Entry into U.S.

It is also common knowledge that immigration is a big issue in the United States as well, with an open borders policy in place and a president who has promised amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants within the country. Amnesty is also one of the Revolution Communist Party USA's main declared goals, and the basis for many illegal aliens reasonings for leaving their own poverty stricken home lands in order to seek out better living conditions here in the United States. What we are witnessing is wealth redistribution on a grand scale, a hallmark of Communist theory.

There appears to be a profound United Nations influence in the policies of not only the United States but many other countries around the world as well. And with headlines such as immigration, global warming/climate change, gender equality, race relations, police brutality etc. a common theme in todays society it has lead me to believe that the Communist direction being taken in the United States all points right back to the sustainable development plan detailed at the United Nations website.

It is my hope that this post is the funniest, craziest thing any of you have read and laugh about this message for days, weeks, months and years to come as you talk with other Americans. Because this theory would mean far more is to come in the United States as the house burns down, including subject matter which will ultimately have a profound affect on this website and our way of life as Americans today. So by all means people, clown myself, this thread and subject matter at every opportunity possible because the more people who are aware of this subject the better. I have a feeling you will not be laughing forever, at some point this is all going to become much more serious even if its implemented incrementally right under our collective noses.

As detailed in post 862086, the shooting of Michael Brown from Ferguson, Missouri has been brought up to the U.N and numerous other circumstances and events from around the country have also caught the U.N's attention as they inject themselves into American politics and social issues. Considering elements of the United States government are clearly in line with Communist ideology, one has to sit on this information and strongly examine other elements related to the United States and the United Nations.

The Arms Trade Treaty - UN Office for Disarmament Affairs
http://www.un.org/disarmament/ATT/

The Obama Administration Signs the UN Gun Control Treaty
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pat-...-nra-freaks-out

Treaty Regulating Global Arms Trade Goes Into Effect Wednesday
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/treat...nesday-27792856

Merry Christmas From the United Nations: The UN Arms Treaty Took Effect on December 24th
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/1...-december-24th/

Gun control groups cheered as the UN Arms Trade Treaty went into effect on Christmas Eve.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...y-takes-effect/

How the UN is confiscating homes and controlling all food and energy
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/0...ood-and-energy/

UN urges US to Designate Immigrants as Refugee's
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/07/08/un-urges-us-to-designate-immigrants-as-refugees/

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#943993 - 09/05/15 06:46 PM Re: Communism in the United States Today [Re: lue-jones]
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