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#1037508 - 05/02/16 08:45 PM
Armslist SCAMMER
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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A few weeks ago I (stupidly) made a mail order deal with a private seller in California. We connected via Armslist and the deal was to buy his Springfield V16. The add sounded legit but I ignored the warning signs of not wanting to use PayPal.. But I passed it off as PayPal not wanting to deal with firearms. I ended up (stupidly.. Again) sending a money order and the scammer on the other side was even "kind enough" to let me know that he got it and would be shipping the gun the next day. That was the last I heard of him. I recently discovered the ad AGAIN posted on armslist and marked it as a scam. He was located in San Fransicsco, California and the second time I saw the ad (this week) it was listed from Sacramento. I notified the local authorities in the town where I sent the money order. They had an ID in the system with a matching name and address but they think someone may have stolen the mans identity and had been watching his mailbox. I will let you all know of any updates. I went against my better judgement here for the love of the gun and lost out big time... I hope no one else makes the same stupid mistake that I did.
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#1037524 - 05/02/16 09:19 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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AutoMag
Gun fool
Registered: 07/30/09
Posts: 867
Loc: Virginia Beach, Va. 23451
City or County: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Sorry to hear that RUGGIERO.
A friend of mine from Florida was also scammed on Armslist when he sent a MO to purchase an AMT Baby AutoMag. I have always heard nothing but bad things in regards to Armslist.
I hope you can get your money back my friend.
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#1037596 - 05/03/16 07:11 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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oodles-of-noodles
Full Auto
Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 1207
Loc: NoVA
City or County: Fairfax
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Armslist scammers have been using Gunbroker user pics to make the scam more real. Always ask for more pics then ask them to take more. If they cannot deliver then it is probably a scam.
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#1037712 - 05/03/16 12:02 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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Dave1978
General Nuisance
Registered: 05/28/15
Posts: 3021
Loc: Fairfax
City or County: Fairfax
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I usually buy off of gunbroker. If you buy from their auction and you get scammed. Gunbroker will cover All except a $100. Also gunbroker has feed back similar to vaguntrader so you get an idea on who you are dealing with. Last thing always deal with United States postal service money orders. I say this because not only stealing the money is a felony but your messing with a federal agency as well. Plus United States postal service has their own law enforcement agency that in theory should start an investigation. I'm not a 100% sure on the usps money order but I feel better about using it.
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#1038115 - 05/04/16 09:25 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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starbuc3
Bolt action
Registered: 08/28/14
Posts: 197
Loc: Chester
City or County: Chesterfield
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Armslist is rife with scammers. I would say on a weekly basis there are users (in VA specifically) that post false ads. Just recently there was a gentlemen who posted a norinco side folder for sale. He alleged he was located in Richmond, but refused to allow me to see the rifle face to face prior to purchase. He insisted that the rifle be shipped to an FFL (versus meeting at one face to face to complete the deal).
Here are a few tips to check for scammer:
-Ask for the mailing address where payment is to be sent - google the address (use street view to check for type of house, run down/foreclosed/etc) -with the name provided to a check on whitepages and see if the address and name match up. -if all of that lines up, ask them to provide a copy of a utility bill in their name at that address.
Finally, if you are set to do the deal, contact local LE and ask them if they could send a patrol over to the house to make sure it's occupied and by the name of the person you are dealing with.
It's a pain in the **I'm an idiot**, but as my grandpa said "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
sorry about your loss bro.
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#1090651 - 09/09/16 11:25 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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2nd.amend
Shooting blanks at Magnum force! ;)
Registered: 12/20/12
Posts: 3966
Loc: Gainesville va
City or County: Gainesville
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Deal face to face with good ole VGT members and don't worry about the BS!!
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#1097824 - 09/27/16 11:52 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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Tyronyglock40man
NO TIME FOR “WOKE” JOKE UNICORN FOLK
Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 6079
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Capital of the Confederacy Richmond-Williamsburg area
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I NEVER send money , check , etc to anyone like that , it's always ftf , cash in hand . I had one a few weeks ago that wouldn't even talk on the phone or meet ftf cash , they demanded sent to an FFL , but They expect me to send them my money and they walk , and this was in Fredericksburg ! I told him I'd meet him at an FFL of his choice , of course no response then so I reported it and it got removed , burns my butt
Edited by tonyglock40man (09/27/16 11:53 AM)
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#1098982 - 09/30/16 01:47 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: 2nd.amend]
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K6AZ
Addicted
Registered: 03/28/13
Posts: 639
Loc: Powhatan
City or County: Powhatan
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Deal face to face with good ole VGT members and don't worry about the BS!! Yep, FTF here and on Armslist. If you must buy a gun from out of state use Gunbroker and check that feedback. I've purchased several hard to find guns on GB and have never had a problem. I prefer to deal FTF if it's something that isn't so hard to get. I've met a lot of good people here but just like anywhere else there is always a few flakes around (no-show at meet points).
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#1112498 - 11/01/16 11:16 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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Paul J
Bolt action
Registered: 04/29/11
Posts: 127
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Loudoun
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Please report mail fraud to the postmaster.
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#1112636 - 11/02/16 11:08 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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joker84
Single barrel
Registered: 07/04/14
Posts: 35
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Covington
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Watch for guy on arms list Joseph lampugnano lamjos@outlook.com tried to get me for a gun want me to send in mail he was sending cashier's check I went against my better judgement told him to **I'm voting for Hillary** off Google the name not first time
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#1113221 - 11/03/16 10:12 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: joker84]
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num1fordfan
RUGERS and T.B.T.B.E.B
Registered: 09/03/09
Posts: 10130
Loc: prince george , va 23875
City or County: PRINCE GEORGE
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Watch for guy on arms list Joseph lampugnano lamjos@outlook.com tried to get me for a gun want me to send in mail he was sending cashier's check I went against my better judgement told him to **I'm voting for Hillary** off Google the name not first time https://www.armslist.com/posts/6035448/n...e5037-gmail-com
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#1113565 - 11/04/16 07:43 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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MP3Mogul
VAGT Staff
Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 6266
Loc: Salem, Virginia
City or County: Salem
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he did reply to a few I had as well
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#1139929 - 01/06/17 10:03 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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UPDATE: The authorities in California have found the scammer and are forwarding the case to the local DA. Apparently he scammed dozens of people so it turned into a large case. I'll keep you all updated with any details that I receive.
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#1150149 - 01/28/17 08:42 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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chwebmaker
Marksman
Registered: 02/15/10
Posts: 328
Loc: Haymarket, Virginia
City or County: Haymarket
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That is a nightmare for sure Ruggiero. People that steal your money should be hanged! I've done a few transactions out of state on Armslist, but I've always insisted on sending the money order to the sellers FFL. Before I do that I contact the FFL and make sure everything is on the up and up and make sure the FFL is on board with shipping the gun in the condition as promised as soon as my money order arrives. This has worked for me on three expensive purchases.
Edited by chwebmaker (01/28/17 08:43 PM)
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#1173918 - 03/19/17 02:59 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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James
Gun fool
Registered: 05/19/11
Posts: 906
Loc: Gods country
City or County: Fairfax/Bristow/Rixeyville
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That's great ruggiero,,,, I hope they burn that California tree huggin piece of **I miss Obama**,,, He was prob a liberal anti gun crazy that scammed hard working Americans out of money while looting, vandalizing, and burning the American flag during the election. He deserves the worst
Edited by the cwa (03/21/17 09:26 PM) Edit Reason: bypassing curse filter
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#1176307 - 03/24/17 10:28 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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ourway77
Pea shooter
Registered: 03/23/17
Posts: 2
Loc: Delaware
City or County: Ocean View
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tizoapp Beware of this guy he replied to WTB ad I placed on another sight asked me to reply to his e-mail He joined the sight Tuesday and has no posts nothing
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#1207253 - 06/04/17 09:33 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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UPDATE: THE SUSPECT IS IN CUSTODY AND HAS HIS COURT DATE ON JUNE 15TH. MY CLAIM HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND IS PENDING THE RESULT OF THE COURT
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#1208665 - 06/07/17 09:34 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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Thanks stockram... I'll keep all you guys updated
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#1213715 - 06/19/17 09:08 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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jpa
Stercus Accidit
Registered: 01/17/12
Posts: 305
Loc: VA
City or County: Hanover
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SO???? UPDATE: THE SUSPECT IS IN CUSTODY AND HAS HIS COURT DATE ON JUNE 15TH. MY CLAIM HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND IS PENDING THE RESULT OF THE COURT
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#1216700 - 06/25/17 10:31 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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1cold6pack
Stamp Collector
Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 4504
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
City or County: Virginia Beach
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#1217150 - 06/26/17 09:26 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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dirtjumper895
Addicted
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 455
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Suffolk
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#1249319 - 09/08/17 10:09 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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Another update, still waiting on the pre-trial hearing. The defense has continued to push back the court date. I'll keep you guys informed of any status changes to the case.
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#1272014 - 10/29/17 06:07 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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SMoAF
Single barrel
Registered: 05/30/09
Posts: 35
Loc: SW VA
City or County: SW VA
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Unfortunately, if you get scammed, the odds of getting your money back are distressingly low. This is true even if they're prosecuted and convicted, since you can't get blood out of a turnip. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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#1290060 - 12/09/17 03:26 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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Still no update from the court, the defendant and his lawyer have been delaying trial
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#1404109 - 09/26/18 07:35 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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MobsterOO7
Pea shooter
Registered: 09/20/18
Posts: 2
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Ruckersville
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#1435023 - 12/18/18 05:15 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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WreckTangle
Double barrel
Registered: 05/21/18
Posts: 56
Loc: Virginia
City or County: Essex
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Ruggiero,
Interested to know what ended up happening.
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#1453667 - 02/04/19 07:28 AM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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UPDATE: The defendant was found not-guilty on ALL felony charges and found guilty on all misdemeanor charges. Still no contact from the court house regarding re-imbursement. Sentencing has not been held yet.
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#1455919 - 02/09/19 02:57 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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graybeard
Marksman
Registered: 03/19/10
Posts: 230
Loc: Va
City or County: Fauquier
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That's truly F'd up! I guess in California, since he scammed gun owners, the courts were cool with that? Jus smack him on the hands for stealin' gun owners money and a promise not to do it again...man that jus sucks Ruggiero. Maybe in the sentencing the court will order him to reimburse each gun owner scammed?
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#1478525 - 04/04/19 06:52 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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ATFmy3favs
former Moderator (site babysitter)
Registered: 05/03/09
Posts: 3636
Loc: Hanover/Mechanicsville
City or County: Hanover/Hampton/VAB/and in between
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My neighbor got scammed on a Scar, talked to the guy, sounded Italian, heavy accent broken English. Sent money just like OP the guy said it was being shipped, had the nerve to say sorry its taking so long the wife sent it USPS instead of UPS. Finally when it was long enough to know it would never come the guy told him "you will never see a gun, your crazy Americans and your weapons of mass destruction you deserve to be scammed. local PD getting it going but they say its likely he is out the money.
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#1543430 - 09/29/19 08:41 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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1cold6pack
Stamp Collector
Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 4504
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
City or County: Virginia Beach
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#1557057 - 11/05/19 02:59 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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RUGGIERO
General Nuisance
Registered: 10/06/15
Posts: 4592
Loc: Chesapeake
City or County: Chesapeake
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Still haven’t heard a thing...
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#1559604 - 11/12/19 01:21 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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LaserJock
B * L * U * E
Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 6258
Loc: NoVA 22192
City or County: NoVA 22192
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#1672013 - 09/06/20 08:48 PM
Re: Armslist SCAMMER
[Re: RUGGIERO]
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UHman03
Pea shooter
Registered: 03/11/20
Posts: 13
Loc: Virginia, USA
City or County: Stafford
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I had a guy on Armslist steal my add. I reported him to Armslist than made an add on Armslist saying his was a scam
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