NY Times: End Gun Violence

So terrorists come to the United States and kill American citizens and the plan is to then strip Americans of their Second Amendment rights due to the actions of those very same terrorists? So essentially they want to take away our ability to defend ourselves against the aggressors the government is importing?

The current government of the United States and its allies have been involved in an illegal war in Syria to oust the countries democratically elected President. And astonishingly enough, the group (Al Qaeda) touted as having been behind the September 11th, 2001 attacks in the United States is the same group the United States is now aligned with to help over throw Syria's government.

And we are lead to believe this international refugee crisis is the result of Syrian nationals fleeing their war torn nation. Nevermind the fact the refugee crisis is not limited to Syrians, and Syrian christians, themselves the subject of Al Qaeda/ISIS persecution are denied entry into the United States while Islamic refugee's are apparently welcomed with open arms. And we've seen time and time again that radicalized Islamic extremists wish to do harm to America.

And we have the majority of the country cheering on this bad idea, too stupid to see any further past their nose than patting themselves on the back for how tolerant and politically correct they are. Notice how the New York Times article specifically mentions insurrection, a subject which has picked up quite a bit of momentum in recent years due to numerous states rights issues which made national headlines. Division is an essential ideological concept in Communist ideology and as we've seen in the war of northern aggression otherwise known as the Civil War a very dangerous one as well. Take a good look at what is occuring in this country, because as the famous author Mark Twain once said, "history does not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme."

Since we have a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) stooge in our midst, touting the United Nations at every turn lets take a look at who the United Nations is and why they should never be allowed to handle any matters related to the United States or its national security.



The Truth About The United Nations





The UN is Communist

The United Nations was also the principle architect in the dismantling of the nation formerly known as Rhodesia. A country which was once ruled by the minority white population and whose rings were turned over to the majority black population. Rhodesia no longer exists, it is now known as Zimbabwe. Where whites have been systematically targeted for rape, murder and forced off their property all under the guise of social justice. Social justice being a term closely associated to political correctness. And I have no doubt this was accomplished not only by support from the communists, but by a healthy dose of propaganda in the media. A microcosm of what is occurring in the United States today.

We have millions of Americans just like DHS puppet Shotz who support politically correct thought. Americans exposed to a wide range of social justice causes which ultimately put white, christian Americans in the back seat in favor of everyone else. Look at how many support the open border between the United States and Mexico with any number of politically correct stances. And guess who is also behind supporting the influx of refugee immigration on the southern border of the United States? The United Nations. We are witnessing the convergence of many United Nations related topics into mainstream national news. The UN is involved in the open border between the United States and Mexico, the importation of refugee's from Syria and the disarmament of United States citizens while those very same immigrants have killed American citizens.

For those interested in reading more, please see the links below:

Representative Tulsi Gabbard on Illegal Syrian War

Donald Trump: Obama Wont Let Syrian Christians Into U.S.

Syrian Christians Denied Entry Into United States

United Nations: Communism Key to Fighting Global Warming

Communism in the United States Today

Obama Administration Signs UN Arms Treaty

Except that my comment was only that before the U.S. multi-agency vetting of refugee applicants began, that they were first referred by the UN - not that the UN was in anyway "responsible for our security."

I personally couldn't give a flying hoot if you think I'm a stooge, but I'm happy to wear that albatross. Fact of the matter remains - I believe that people, all people, deserve basic human consideration. And sure, spurn the Constitutional debate - but to me "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." was a declaration to the world. It doesn't say "All natural born Americans are created equal," or "all White Christians are created equal," or "All American citizens and those with lawful status are created equal." No, it says "all men."

You can argue all day about whether or not we should accept Syrian or any other refugees (and ohh boy has the GOP had a field day with this one, like a certain candidate with a well known family name and his position that we should allow Syrian refugees that can "prove they're Christian." Oh, wonderful - religious tests. Tell me, exactly how do you "prove" that you're a Christian?), but fact of the matter remains that they're coming. We can sit around with this issue, like we are doing with others, and try to repeal Obamacare for what, the 64th time? OR, we can figure out what we're going to do about it. "We need better vetting." Ok, like what? What would be "satisfactory" to you in terms of vetting? Will it ever be good enough?

And if you really want to get down to it - here's the crux of the issue. The "war on terror" is over, and we've lost. The fact that there's even a debate about whether or not we should take in from the cold those who are seeking our compassion (because, when it comes down to it, we're scared), means that "the t'rrists" have accomplished their mission. We take our shoes off and surrender our assault-nail-clippers to get on an airplane; families think twice about attending large venue events; we look to our neighbors with suspicion on a daily basis; and we sit here arm-chair quarterbacking the denial of life and liberty to a people because of their religious affiliation and the color of their skins. We're racist, bigoted and fearful. We've let the events of the past 20 years fundamentally alter our humanity.

I have no objection to vetting refugees. I have no objection to doing what is possible to ensure the safety of Americans and those we host here in this country. I have no objection to absolutely obliterating those that wage war on freedom and the innocent.

I do object to unilateral denial of basic human compassion because "one of the grapes might be poisoned." I do object to standing by doing nothing, worse than nothing, when there are people who have asked for our help in their escape from evil.

Extremists Terget Refugee Programs

Last week's mass Islamic terror attack in Cali in which a "THOROUGHLY VETTED ” muslim woman was using
a false address and other info to get in to our country should be enough evidence to show that the current vetting doesn't work. And she was from a country that DOES work with our dept of state. ( of course it was weakened by hilderbeast and Frankenstein Kerry).

Any argument that vetting can I.D. a sleeper Islamic killer falls apart. For all the kumbaya singing hug givers onboard, how about if you send a check to to red Crescent? A few bucks U.S. would buy a nice place for the Syrians in some other hellhole Arab state. The "refugees" would be around familiar foods, a known climate with folks following their own bronze age cultural norms. Plenty of goats to play with, sheep to sacrifice on holidays and governments that won't let women drive or Christians practice their faith openly.

We don't need to import and fund folks who will scream at a Bob Evans because the grill cook made bacon on the same grill that they wanted a burger cooked on. Theirs is a culture of hate

Should the vetting process be different for...

K1 Visas?

v.

B1 Visas?

v.

Refugee applicants?

v.

Asylees?

v.

Tourists?

v.

VWP travelers?

From the liberal ABC news today

With the U.S. and other countries on high alert for ISIS attacks, American authorities are warning the terror group’s followers may have infiltrated American borders with authentic-looking passports ISIS has printed itself with its own machines, according to an intelligence report obtained by ABC News.

The 17-page Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) Intelligence Report, issued to law enforcement last week, says ISIS likely has been able to print legitimate-looking Syrian passports since taking over the city of Deir ez-Zour last summer, home to a passport office with “boxes of blank passports” and a passport printing machine. Another passport office was located in Raqqa, Syria, which has long been ISIS’s de facto capital.

“Since more than 17 months [have] passed since Raqqa and Deir ez-Zour fell to ISIS, it is possible that individuals from Syria with passports ‘issued’ in these ISIS controlled cities or who had passport blanks, may have traveled to the U.S.,” the report says.
The report notes that the primary source for the information was rated at “moderate confidence,” the second-highest rating given for source assessments. Testifying before lawmakers Wednesday, FBI Director James Comey first publicly revealed the nation’s top security officials’ very real anxiety over the problem.

“The intelligence community is concerned that they [ISIS] have the ability, the capability to manufacture fraudulent passports, which is a concern in any setting,” Comey said.

Former Department of Homeland Security intelligence official and ABC News consultant John Cohen said, “If ISIS has been able to acquire legitimate passports or machines that create legitimate passports, this would represent a major security risk in the United States.”

Fake Syrian passports have already been discovered in Europe, most notably two used by suicide bombers in the horrific terrorist attack on Paris last month. The two men are believed to have slipped into Europe with a flood of Syrian refugees fleeing the violence in their homeland.

According to the source that provided the passport information to homeland security officials, Syria is awash in fake documents.

“The source further stated that fake Syrian passports are so prevalent in Syria that Syrians do not even view possessing them as illegal,” the report says. “The source stated fake Syrian passports can be obtained in Syria for $200 to $400 and that backdated passport stamps to be placed in the passport cost the same.”

The report included one example in which law enforcement officials said that a Syrian passport discovered in Turkey was printed with a designator number indicating it had been printed in an ISIS-controlled area earlier this year.


So much for the Vetting Process that B. Insane Obama is so sure of

Great and lots of back and forth examples given here.

What I'd really like to hear from is the opinion of those who have lost their loved ones and those who were injured and lived to tell from the many terrorist attacks. I would like to ask them if it is a good idea to bring in more Syrian refugees.

That would have more weight than any of our silly opinions.

I'm with mark

Agreed. I do believe children under age 7 ish could be admitted though

FDR, a hailed hero by the Democrat's, topped Trumps stance on refugee's...

http://spectator.org/articles/64879/fdr-was-trump-steroids

Do these **I'm voting for Hillary** get to vote today??